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Everything is ready. The NHS now has 15 beds available for severe respiratory cases.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...piratory-cases

You read that right. 15. :lol:

Boris? He's busy partying with some seriously corrupt people.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ory-fundraiser

They can't even be arsed to meet with flood victims.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ng-severn-told

The new Tory Britain - a government of lazy, indifferent, bent *******s who don't give the slightest ****.
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Everything is ready. The NHS now has 15 beds available for severe respiratory cases.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...piratory-cases

You read that right. 15. :lol:

Boris? He's busy partying with some seriously corrupt people.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ory-fundraiser

They can't even be arsed to meet with flood victims.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ng-severn-told

The new Tory Britain - a government of lazy, indifferent, bent *******s who don't give the slightest ****.
At least it's not as bad as North Korea where the dear leader ordered the execution of a virus carrier for breaching quarantine restrictions.
Monty Python: 'He's not dead ', 'I'm getting better'.
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(Original post by Fullofsurprises)
Everything is ready. The NHS now has 15 beds available for severe respiratory cases.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...piratory-cases

You read that right. 15. :lol:

Boris? He's busy partying with some seriously corrupt people.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ory-fundraiser

They can't even be arsed to meet with flood victims.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ng-severn-told

The new Tory Britain - a government of lazy, indifferent, bent *******s who don't give the slightest ****.
Sounds about as useful as this
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Few murmurs from the doctors at the Current Medical Students and Doctors forum about this...

Basically I don't think any of us had any specific training, nor really told anything other than standard trustwide email saying "Yes, we are ready" and "No, don't touch or get close to people who you think may have this disease".

Yes, we are well and truly prepared.
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Few murmurs from the doctors at the Current Medical Students and Doctors forum about this...

Basically I don't think any of us had any specific training, nor really told anything other than standard trustwide email saying "Yes, we are ready" and "No, don't touch or get close to people who you think may have this disease".

Yes, we are well and truly prepared.
I spoke to an NHS hospital doctor the other day at a party and she told me that they were getting some guidance, but it was clear that it was insufficient and that no extra resources have or will be provided to deal with what appears to be an inevitable crisis.

Meanwhile, our 'government' sleeps on. Boris's model is a sort of Victorian 'do-nothing' system where the rich simply enjoy their wealth and the rest can go hang. The role of politicians in that system was to further enrich the rich and themselves.
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Despite the hysteria its worth saying that mass outbreaks are currently contained to a few countries and at its current rate cases in China will actually start to fall sometime in the next month getting rid of the largest source of the infection.

We should be doing more in terms of travel bans though to delay it further.

Right now i'm not sure the UK will reach the pandemic stage but much of that depends on how well Italy gets a grip on its outbreak. We may however be close to the inflection point. In two months either cases outside poor states we don't care about will be going down or we will be in the midst of the outbreak.
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Despite the hysteria its worth saying that mass outbreaks are currently contained to a few countries and at its current rate cases in China will actually start to fall sometime in the next month getting rid of the largest source of the infection.

We should be doing more in terms of travel bans though to delay it further.

Right now i'm not sure the UK will reach the pandemic stage but much of that depends on how well Italy gets a grip on its outbreak. We may however be close to the inflection point. In two months either cases outside poor states we don't care about will be going down or we will be in the midst of the outbreak.
The US is a big threat because almost 30m people there have no access to healthcare and if infected, will not receive care. We are about to see a major test of the US system where the logic of abandoning the poor to fend for themselves is demonstrated to be far from logical.

In the UK, you mention flights, but that's just one of many things the government have failed to implement or react to correctly. These things are perhaps not unconnected to the brazen indifference of this government to speaking with the media and the sheer laziness and stupidity of the Prime Minister and his nasty little flunky.
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The US is a big threat because almost 30m people there have no access to healthcare and if infected, will not receive care. We are about to see a major test of the US system where the logic of abandoning the poor to fend for themselves is demonstrated to be far from logical.

In the UK, you mention flights, but that's just one of many things the government have failed to implement or react to correctly. These things are perhaps not unconnected to the brazen indifference of this government to speaking with the media and the sheer laziness and stupidity of the Prime Minister and his nasty little flunky.
It's worth saying that their are some public facilities in the US and in cases like this, people won't just be aloud to die. It's more likely that they will just get handed the bill afterwards and be pushed into debt.
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It's worth saying that their are some public facilities in the US and in cases like this, people won't just be aloud to die. It's more likely that they will just get handed the bill afterwards and be pushed into debt.
Millions of Americans don't dare go to a Doctor or a hospital exactly to avoid bankruptcy.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...cans-uninsured

Large numbers die every year due to lack of medical care in one of the richest countries on earth.
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Everything is ready. The NHS now has 15 beds available for severe respiratory cases.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...piratory-cases

You read that right. 15. :lol:

Boris? He's busy partying with some seriously corrupt people.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ory-fundraiser

They can't even be arsed to meet with flood victims.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ng-severn-told

The new Tory Britain - a government of lazy, indifferent, bent *******s who don't give the slightest ****.
You're right. The NHS is rubbish.
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You're right. The NHS is rubbish.
It's been starved of funds. Public spending on healthcare per capita is much higher in most other developed countries.
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It's been starved of funds. Public spending on healthcare per capita is much higher in most other developed countries.
Yeah, and it looks like NI is being cut in the budget. NI needs to rise to 15%, applied to all income and get pensioners paying their share.

Doctors earning over double the median UK wage need a pay cut of 10%, those earning triple the median wage a 15% cut and those earning quadruple a 20% cut.
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Some hospitals have sent up temporary isolation units AKA portacabins, which have come at great expense.
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Some hospitals have sent up temporary isolation units AKA portacabins, which have come at great expense.
Or as we normals call them, 'containers'.
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Or as we normals call them, 'containers'.
They are a little beyond containers.
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They are a little beyond containers.
I've seen pictures of them unloading containers at the back of hospitals captioned as 'emergency treatment facilities'. Perhaps some are doing better, but that was definitely the case at some sites.

A number of doctors serving in ICU facilities have come forward to say there is basically no spare emergency provision currently available in the NHS for the sort of intensive treatment people with Covid-19 and existing serious medical conditions will need, who are likely to number in the hundreds of thousands if this thing becomes really pandemic, as seems likely.

It's going to be chaos and the government is trying to hide that from us currently rather than squaring up to it. They are still prioritising things like the makeover of the House of Lords, or maternity leave for Boris, over dealing with what is increasingly the most serious crisis we will face in many years.
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I've seen pictures of them unloading containers at the back of hospitals captioned as 'emergency treatment facilities'. Perhaps some are doing better, but that was definitely the case at some sites.

A number of doctors serving in ICU facilities have come forward to say there is basically no spare emergency provision currently available in the NHS for the sort of intensive treatment people with Covid-19 and existing serious medical conditions will need, who are likely to number in the hundreds of thousands if this thing becomes really pandemic, as seems likely.

It's going to be chaos and the government is trying to hide that from us currently rather than squaring up to it. They are still prioritising things like the makeover of the House of Lords, or maternity leave for Boris, over dealing with what is increasingly the most serious crisis we will face in many years.
Portacabins often have the same dimensions as containers because it make them more portable.

Hundreds of thousands is a bit of a stretch, not even one hundred thousand people have been infected worldwide and half of the 90,000 confirmed infections have recovered already.

Will it be chaos? almost certainly. The NHS aren't even prepared for the winter that comes round quite predictably every year, some of the Trusts aren't even prepared for a busy Friday night.
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