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To what extent are you expected to commit to an academic careers after completing your PhD ? Are you admitted to a PhD expecting as a commitment to academic, research and even your department/institution and fellow academics ? Will you create enemies of you decide to go straight into the job market or attempt to start your own business ?
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Your opinions and thoughts people...

To what extent are you expected to commit to an academic careers after completing your PhD ? Are you admitted to a PhD expecting as a commitment to academic, research and even your department/institution and fellow academics ? Will you create enemies of you decide to go straight into the job market or attempt to start your own business ?
I mean, they can't force you to stay in academia (especially not with the academic job market being how it is). Supervisors are aware that only a small number of their students will stay in academia, which is why a lot of universities now hold numerous industry job workshops/job fairs etc.

Expectations may also depend on the supervisor/department/field - STEM PhD students may be expected to stay in academia more than say Arts & Humanities students, due to the nature of lab-based work (and universities having the necessary facilities). That's me completely speculating though.
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To what extent are you expected to commit to an academic careers after completing your PhD ? Are you admitted to a PhD expecting as a commitment to academic, research and even your department/institution and fellow academics ? Will you create enemies of you decide to go straight into the job market or attempt to start your own business ?
Unless you funding is linked to some specific post doc activity, there is no expectation on what you want to do. If everyone wanted a career in academia, there wouldn't be space and academia only needs people who want to be there (and have the ability).
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To what extent are you expected to commit to an academic careers after completing your PhD ? Are you admitted to a PhD expecting as a commitment to academic, research and even your department/institution and fellow academics ? Will you create enemies of you decide to go straight into the job market or attempt to start your own business ?
I have never come across a PhD scheme that committed you to a post doc position after graduation.

A post doc is a “real job” that comes with a job spec, formal HR overview of the recruitment process, pension, salary scale, increments etc that is entirely different from a studentship, and is typically time limited and tied to a specific research grant. It would need to be a very long grant to cover transitioning a starting PhD into a useful 2 year RA. It also cost a _lot_ to fund, its very unusual to have enough money available to be able to transition all your graduating PhD’s to, so many will have to move on to something else. Finally, it is also unclear at the start of a PhD if any given student is going to be good post doc material ..... you would hope so, but some do substantially better than others over that 3-4 years of growth.

Will you create enemies if you leave academia, no, you are then “product” and (hopefully) a walking advert for the skill set, drive and self direction you gained from all that PhD training . Several of my ex students with non-academic jobs turned into valuable collaborators after they left university, some of them even turn up with funding and research contracts to help support the next generation of PhDs.
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