Is the mathematics you learn in school really needed in everyday life?

maybe, but why those things are beautiful beacuse he visualize those examples, so you also know why it is like it is, not only how it is done.

It's probably the most useless subject in every day life for most people.

Yes , i can post it here, so you can analyze it, beacuse in my opinion, these stuff have non-human origin in my opinion.

This book, claim it comes from God, as they say, big claims need big proofs.....
but this book gives big proofs trough mathematical codings of the book.
This book is 1400 years old, and when we put chapter and verse numbers in excel we can see extraordinary patterns in it.


this is just a little part of numerical patterns of all what we have found in it.

Often people say, if God exists why does he not give us some proof etc....

but here, in this book he says that it is his book, and he will give proof for it...now when computers are invented for the first time we are able to see numerical patterns in it of gigantic proportions.

Why is this proof from God and not from humans, is beacuse this book was revealed to prophet verse by verse during period of 23 years, he was unlettered person, could not read nor write, he just recite revelation and his scribers write it down on different material, when revelation finished and prophet died the whole book was transfered into paper form from different material, like animal bones, skin, stones, ceramics etc

when you analyze this i can show you even more mathematical stuff from this book.

As a person who studied math at university this what is found in this book is extraordinary for humanity in my opinion, beacuse for the first time in human history we are able study mathematical patterns which does not come from humans, in this case from God,, as the book claim.
The intresting thing here is, it is simple to understand and impossible to imitate, that is what it makes it so special and proof that this book indeed comes from God.

I want your analysis of these pattern, and give me your opinion about it.

Definitely! Comparing prices in supermarkets, measuring things, interior design, buying and working out the costs of things, rotations and symmetry, so many times when maths comes in useful to everyday scenarios.

As a design student knowing how to add up, subtract and know how to do the radius/circumference/diameter of circles is pretty much all you need and all of that is for Solidworks software (as although its a CAD programme it was actually designed for engineers so you need to input measurements rather than just clicking and dragging to resize things).
I got an A at GCSE maths and i can honestly say i can hardly remember any of it. I think it depends on your field of study/employment which bits of compulsory maths you would use/build on.

I think that most of the maths we learn at high school isn't going to be used in the daily lives of most people who go through maths GCSE but I don't think it necessarily needs to be. I think that the point of school is to equip us with the skills to be able to solve the problems we'll face as adults; paying taxes is an example so I don't think it needs to be taught. In maths these skills are arithmetical, logical and solving problems. The same is true of other subjects like English literature; the point isn't much learning about the book but rather being able to analyse language and structure choice to find more meaning in text - the book is only a means to that end. Because maths deals in ideas instead of a single book, people might be fixated on using that part of maths i.e Trigonometry instead of realising the usefulness of doing it is in the skills of calculation and how to apply known knowledge to find unknown information. This might also be because some parts of maths are clearly important like arithmetic so some people might also wonder about why they should learn other things which don't seem directly useful.

Not true. I was saying that KS2 teaches much of the "everyday maths". More topics at GCSE focus on putting foundation's in place for higher maths or study in other subjects (algebra, geometry, trig,...). Just about all gcse subjects would not be used in everyday life, there is no reason to expect maths gcse to be any different. Indeed as maths is a language in many technical subjects, it would be negligent not to support this.

Yes.

I work as an estimator for flooring. I use alot of trig, circle theorems etc to work out floor space for pricing. I do have software that can do it but you have to do it manually a lot of the time if your on a building site.

They way I've seen it, it depends on what you do. Have I use everything I've ever learned? No, but based on what I do, it doesn't mean I will never use it at some point.

On behalf of maths teachers everywhere I'm sorry to hear that. Which subject would you say is the most useful? and how do you use it in your daily life?

It seems like we live in a world where all the calculations we need are done for us. We have automated supermarket checkouts to tell us how much we need to pay for our shopping, we carry gps phones in our pockets to work out optimal routes for us, and price comparison sites find us the cheapest possible deals on holidays and many other things.

Our world is very different from the way it was when a lot of the mathematics we teach in school was invented. The ancient Babylonians had methods for solving (some) quadratic equations and also knew about Pythagoras's theorem about a thousand years before he was born.

I need to know a lot about mathematics for my job, but that's certainly not true for everyone. What do you think about the mathematics we teach at schools? Should we be covering different topics? Should we teach it at all? How much mathematics do you use outside the classroom?

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My name is William Lee and I teach maths to students studying for the BSc Mathematics degree at the University of Huddersfield. I also work a lot on developing mathematical models in collaboration with industry, helping them uncover hidden meaning in their data and better understand how their processes work and can be improved.

That's a great point. I would definitely agree that formulating logical arguments is important. Do you think that is taught well in school mathematics?

I seem to remember that we were just expected to pick up logical arguments rather than taught it formally. But maybe that is the best way to learn. What do you think?

i can explain so you can understand, here you can see easier here what is going on...from the book we extract chapters and their verse numbers, put it in column, then we add the numbers and get two columns, with even and add numbers, sum of all chapters is equal as sum of all odd numbers, while sum of all verse numbers is equal to the sum of all even numbers....then we look in the column Total, we divide repetetive numbers with non-repetetive numbers from the column we get golden ratio 1.618


Do you need more explanation?


I do think you have to be careful in interpreting what rare events mean though.

this is not rare, we have thousands of numerical patterns in the same book, to say it is rare numerical patterns is not logical since we have sooo many examples in the same book, beacuse of the such large frequency of numerical patterns in the same book we can conclude it was intentional to put them there.

first you need to understand this example above then we can continue our discussion

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We need better maths education in schools to banish this kind of irrational thinking.

But isn't the golden ratio irrational

This is intriguing, but still difficult to interpret. If you'd really like to discuss this with someone more knowledgeable than me then I see that a search for "Quran even odd sum" will give you links to pages by people who seem to have looked into this in some detail. I think you might find it more fruitful to discuss this with them than with me.

Yes and we need to banish it from maths education as I discussed here