Why are people saying bidets, bodnas and poo hoses are more hygienic?

I mean that's my question as well. People should be washing their hands for 20 secs at least when they do, and increasing frequency shouldn't be an issue.

The typical argument that goes with bidets is that "if you got fecal matter on your hands, you wouldn't just wipe it off with tissue." I mean no, but I wouldn't just spray it with a little water either.

I find it a confusing argument as well, unless you are using soap then spraying yourself with water is no more hygienic than toilet paper as you aren't actually killing any bacteria.
Even if you do use soap unless you have a really powerful jet stream then you aren't going to wash away all the faeces with just water, apparently you use your hand which I personally would find disgusting. Even if you wash your hands afterwards if you have long fingernails then stuff can stay stuck under them. At least with toilet paper you can remove stuff left behind with a barrier between your hand and the matter.
Providing you shower regularly using toilet paper alone is not unhygienic.

If you had poo on your face you wouldn't wipe it with dry tissues and feel like the problem is all sorted.

The question is why would you have poo on your face in the first place? The world has gone mad.

If you had poo on your face you wouldn't wipe it with dry tissues and feel like the problem is all sorted

But you also wouldn't just spray it with a little water?

Also, no one is getting butt infections from using only tissue/other such paper product, so I don't see the issue. You'd probably get some sort of infection if you did this with your face (get it in your mouth/eyes/nose,) whereas if you're not touching your butt you're unlikely to get any sort of infection.

But you also wouldn't just spray it with a little water?

Also, no one is getting butt infections from using only tissue/other such paper product, so I don't see the issue. You'd probably get some sort of infection if you did this with your face (get it in your mouth/eyes/nose,) whereas if you're not touching your butt you're unlikely to get any sort of infection.

I would recommend looking into Japanese toilets. Very swish.

its not spraying it with a bit of water, its thoroughly washing it off with your hand as well, making sure you wash your hands thoroughly after done. If i had **** on my face I would wash it thoroughly with water, which is how those things you listed are meant to be used ygmmm

with no soap? do you also wash your hands without soap?

Exactly. 100%. One still needs something to wipe the water off their bum. The idea of leaving the loo with a wet bum is disgusting as well.

I would recommend looking into Japanese toilets. Very swish.