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Hello!!

Wanted to start a thread specifically for South Thames Foundation programme.

So excited to start and meet lots of new people. Gutted that the information fair on the 20th has been cancelled, would have been nice meeting some people and getting more information.

I spent ages trying to find the decile scores so here is the link in case anyone is still searching.
https://www.lpmde.ac.uk/laserecruitm...n-programme-fp

its on the right hand side under downloads

SJT scores for 2020
Mean:39.85
Median:40.35
Standard Deviation:4.1
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Hello!!

Wanted to start a thread specifically for South Thames Foundation programme.

So excited to start and meet lots of new people. Gutted that the information fair on the 20th has been cancelled, would have been nice meeting some people and getting more information.

I spent ages trying to find the decile scores so here is the link in case anyone is still searching.
https://www.lpmde.ac.uk/laserecruitm...n-programme-fp

its on the right hand side under downloads

SJT scores for 2020
Mean:39.85
Median:40.35
Standard Deviation:4.1
Have you found a list/map that shows which is London link 1/2/3?
Well done on getting in too
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I haven't found a map but the list on the link in the original post has everything on there. When you download the spreadsheet, highlight the whole thing (Control + A) then click Filter under Sort & Filter and then you can select which subgroup to look at which makes it easier to see what hospitals are in each LL group.

Even with this I'm really struggling to sort out the LL groups - I thought each group would be "one in, one out" but they seem to be quite spread out! Making it quite difficult to plan what to rank..

Well done for getting in too!
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Have you found a list/map that shows which is London link 1/2/3?
Well done on getting in too
Yeah I tried looking for a definitive list of which hospitals are in which subgroup but I don't think such a list exists! There's a lot of layover between the london links, so you might be in the same hospital but allocated different LL's!
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Hi guys I am not from a UK medical school, so have been spending a lot of time trying to figure this whole hospital thing out. I have broken the sub-divisions of South Thames into hospitals to try make it easier to understand. Please see the below

LL1:

ABRAHAM COWLEY UNIT
Berkeley House
Bridgewell House
CONQUEST HOSPITAL
CROYDON UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL
DARENT VALLEY HOSPITAL
EAST SURREY HOSPITAL (RTP04)
EASTBOURNE DISTRICT GENERAL HOSPITAL (RXC02)
EPSOM GENERAL HOSPITAL
FARNHAM ROAD HOSPITAL
FARNHAM ROAD HOSPITAL (RXX22)
FRIMLEY PARK HOSPITAL (RDU01)
GUY'S HOSPITAL
Kent & Canterbury Hospital (RVVKC)
Kent and Medway NHS and Social Care Partnership Trust
KENT AND MEDWAY PARTNERSHIP TRUST (KMPT)
KING'S COLLEGE HOSPITAL (DENMARK HILL)
KINGSTON HOSPITAL (RAX01)
MEDWAY MARITIME HOSPITAL (RPA02)
Millwood Clinic (RX2H1)
PRINCESS ROYAL HOSPITAL (RXH09)
PRINCESS ROYAL UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL (RYQ30)
QUEEN ELIZABETH HOSPITAL
QUEEN ELIZABETH THE QUEEN MOTHER HOSPITAL
ROYAL SURREY COUNTY HOSPITAL
ROYAL SUSSEX COUNTY HOSPITAL
ST CATHERINE'S HOSPICE
ST GEORGE'S HOSPITAL
ST HELIER HOSPITAL
ST PETER'S HOSPITAL
ST PETERS HOSPITAL (RXX16)
ST RICHARD'S HOSPITAL
ST THOMAS' HOSPITAL (RJ122)
ST. WILFRIDS HOSPICE (G81670)
Sussex Partnership NHS Foundation Trust (RX200)
THE MAIDSTONE HOSPITAL
THE TUNBRIDGE WELLS HOSPITAL
UNITHER HOUSE
UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL LEWISHAM
WEST PARK (RXX2TA)
WILLIAM HARVEY HOSPITAL (ASHFORD)
WORTHING HOSPITAL (RYR18)

LL2:
ABRAHAM COWLEY UNIT
CONQUEST HOSPITAL
CROYDON UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL
DARENT VALLEY HOSPITAL
EAST SURREY HOSPITAL (RTP04)
EASTBOURNE DISTRICT GENERAL HOSPITAL (RXC02)
EPSOM GENERAL HOSPITAL
FARNHAM ROAD HOSPITAL
FRIMLEY PARK HOSPITAL (RDU01)
GUY'S HOSPITAL
Kent & Canterbury Hospital (RVVKC)
Kent and Medway NHS and Social Care Partnership Trust
KENT AND MEDWAY PARTNERSHIP TRUST (KMPT)
KING'S COLLEGE HOSPITAL (DENMARK HILL)
KINGSTON HOSPITAL (RAX01)
MEDWAY MARITIME HOSPITAL (RPA02)
PRINCESS ROYAL HOSPITAL (RXH09)
PRINCESS ROYAL UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL (RYQ30)
QUEEN ELIZABETH HOSPITAL
QUEEN ELIZABETH THE QUEEN MOTHER HOSPITAL
ROYAL SURREY COUNTY HOSPITAL
ROYAL SUSSEX COUNTY HOSPITAL
ST HELIER HOSPITAL
ST PETER'S HOSPITAL
ST RICHARD'S HOSPITAL
ST THOMAS' HOSPITAL (RJ122)
THE MAIDSTONE HOSPITAL
THE TUNBRIDGE WELLS HOSPITAL
UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL LEWISHAM
WILLIAM HARVEY HOSPITAL (ASHFORD)
WORTHING HOSPITAL (RYR18)

LL3:
CONQUEST HOSPITAL
CROYDON UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL
DARENT VALLEY HOSPITAL
EAST SURREY HOSPITAL (RTP04)
EASTBOURNE DISTRICT GENERAL HOSPITAL (RXC02)
EPSOM GENERAL HOSPITAL
FRIMLEY PARK HOSPITAL (RDU01)
GUY'S HOSPITAL
Kent & Canterbury Hospital (RVVKC)
Kent and Medway NHS and Social Care Partnership Trust
KENT AND MEDWAY PARTNERSHIP TRUST (KMPT)
KING'S COLLEGE HOSPITAL (DENMARK HILL)
MEDWAY MARITIME HOSPITAL (RPA02)
PRINCESS ROYAL UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL (RYQ30)
QUEEN ELIZABETH HOSPITAL
QUEEN ELIZABETH THE QUEEN MOTHER HOSPITAL
ST HELIER HOSPITAL
ST PETER'S HOSPITAL
ST RICHARD'S HOSPITAL
ST THOMAS' HOSPITAL (RJ122)
THE MAIDSTONE HOSPITAL
THE TUNBRIDGE WELLS HOSPITAL
UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL LEWISHAM
WILLIAM HARVEY HOSPITAL (ASHFORD)
WORTHING HOSPITAL (RYR18)

Continuity:
ABRAHAM COWLEY UNIT
Berkeley House
Bridgewell House
CONQUEST HOSPITAL
CROYDON UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL
DARENT VALLEY HOSPITAL
EAST SURREY HOSPITAL (RTP04)
EASTBOURNE DISTRICT GENERAL HOSPITAL (RXC02)
EPSOM GENERAL HOSPITAL
FARNHAM ROAD HOSPITAL
FRIMLEY PARK HOSPITAL (RDU01)
GUY'S HOSPITAL
Kent & Canterbury Hospital (RVVKC)
Kent and Medway NHS and Social Care Partnership Trust
KENT AND MEDWAY PARTNERSHIP TRUST (KMPT)
KING'S COLLEGE HOSPITAL (DENMARK HILL)
KINGSTON HOSPITAL (RAX01)
MEDWAY MARITIME HOSPITAL (RPA02)
Millwood Clinic (RX2H1)
PRINCESS ROYAL HOSPITAL (RXH09)
PRINCESS ROYAL UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL (RYQ30)
QUEEN ELIZABETH HOSPITAL
QUEEN ELIZABETH THE QUEEN MOTHER HOSPITAL
ROYAL SURREY COUNTY HOSPITAL
ROYAL SUSSEX COUNTY HOSPITAL
ST GEORGE'S HOSPITAL
ST HELIER HOSPITAL
ST PETER'S HOSPITAL
ST RICHARD'S HOSPITAL
ST THOMAS' HOSPITAL (RJ122)
ST. WILFRIDS HOSPICE (G81670)
Sussex Partnership NHS Foundation Trust (RX200)
THE MAIDSTONE HOSPITAL
THE TUNBRIDGE WELLS HOSPITAL
UNITHER HOUSE
UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL LEWISHAM
WEST PARK (RXX2TA)
WILLIAM HARVEY HOSPITAL (ASHFORD)
WORTHING HOSPITAL (RYR18)

Coast and Country:
ABRAHAM COWLEY UNIT
Bridgewell House
CONQUEST HOSPITAL
DARENT VALLEY HOSPITAL
EAST SURREY HOSPITAL (RTP04)
EASTBOURNE DISTRICT GENERAL HOSPITAL (RXC02)
FARNHAM ROAD HOSPITAL
FARNHAM ROAD HOSPITAL (RXX22)
FRIMLEY PARK HOSPITAL (RDU01)
Kent & Canterbury Hospital (RVVKC)
Kent and Medway NHS and Social Care Partnership Trust
KENT AND MEDWAY PARTNERSHIP TRUST (KMPT)
MEDWAY MARITIME HOSPITAL (RPA02)
PRINCESS ROYAL HOSPITAL (RXH09)
QUEEN ELIZABETH THE QUEEN MOTHER HOSPITAL
ROYAL SUSSEX COUNTY HOSPITAL
ST CATHERINE'S HOSPICE
ST PETER'S HOSPITAL
ST PETERS HOSPITAL (RXX16)
ST RICHARD'S HOSPITAL
ST. WILFRIDS HOSPICE (G81670)
Sussex Partnership NHS Foundation Trust (RX200)
THE MAIDSTONE HOSPITAL
THE TUNBRIDGE WELLS HOSPITAL
UNITHER HOUSE
WILLIAM HARVEY HOSPITAL (ASHFORD)
WORTHING HOSPITAL (RYR18)

Hope this helps

Please can someone give me some info on the following hospitals:
Croydon
St Helier
Epsom

And what is a doctor's mess? Is it an on call room or proper doctors accommodation at a decreased rate?

Thanks so much!
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Hi guys I am not from a UK medical school, so have been spending a lot of time trying to figure this whole hospital thing out. I have broken the sub-divisions of South Thames into hospitals to try make it easier to understand. Please see the below

LL1:

ABRAHAM COWLEY UNIT
Berkeley House
Bridgewell House
CONQUEST HOSPITAL
CROYDON UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL
DARENT VALLEY HOSPITAL
EAST SURREY HOSPITAL (RTP04)
EASTBOURNE DISTRICT GENERAL HOSPITAL (RXC02)
EPSOM GENERAL HOSPITAL
FARNHAM ROAD HOSPITAL
FARNHAM ROAD HOSPITAL (RXX22)
FRIMLEY PARK HOSPITAL (RDU01)
GUY'S HOSPITAL
Kent & Canterbury Hospital (RVVKC)
Kent and Medway NHS and Social Care Partnership Trust
KENT AND MEDWAY PARTNERSHIP TRUST (KMPT)
KING'S COLLEGE HOSPITAL (DENMARK HILL)
KINGSTON HOSPITAL (RAX01)
MEDWAY MARITIME HOSPITAL (RPA02)
Millwood Clinic (RX2H1)
PRINCESS ROYAL HOSPITAL (RXH09)
PRINCESS ROYAL UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL (RYQ30)
QUEEN ELIZABETH HOSPITAL
QUEEN ELIZABETH THE QUEEN MOTHER HOSPITAL
ROYAL SURREY COUNTY HOSPITAL
ROYAL SUSSEX COUNTY HOSPITAL
ST CATHERINE'S HOSPICE
ST GEORGE'S HOSPITAL
ST HELIER HOSPITAL
ST PETER'S HOSPITAL
ST PETERS HOSPITAL (RXX16)
ST RICHARD'S HOSPITAL
ST THOMAS' HOSPITAL (RJ122)
ST. WILFRIDS HOSPICE (G81670)
Sussex Partnership NHS Foundation Trust (RX200)
THE MAIDSTONE HOSPITAL
THE TUNBRIDGE WELLS HOSPITAL
UNITHER HOUSE
UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL LEWISHAM
WEST PARK (RXX2TA)
WILLIAM HARVEY HOSPITAL (ASHFORD)
WORTHING HOSPITAL (RYR18)

LL2:
ABRAHAM COWLEY UNIT
CONQUEST HOSPITAL
CROYDON UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL
DARENT VALLEY HOSPITAL
EAST SURREY HOSPITAL (RTP04)
EASTBOURNE DISTRICT GENERAL HOSPITAL (RXC02)
EPSOM GENERAL HOSPITAL
FARNHAM ROAD HOSPITAL
FRIMLEY PARK HOSPITAL (RDU01)
GUY'S HOSPITAL
Kent & Canterbury Hospital (RVVKC)
Kent and Medway NHS and Social Care Partnership Trust
KENT AND MEDWAY PARTNERSHIP TRUST (KMPT)
KING'S COLLEGE HOSPITAL (DENMARK HILL)
KINGSTON HOSPITAL (RAX01)
MEDWAY MARITIME HOSPITAL (RPA02)
PRINCESS ROYAL HOSPITAL (RXH09)
PRINCESS ROYAL UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL (RYQ30)
QUEEN ELIZABETH HOSPITAL
QUEEN ELIZABETH THE QUEEN MOTHER HOSPITAL
ROYAL SURREY COUNTY HOSPITAL
ROYAL SUSSEX COUNTY HOSPITAL
ST HELIER HOSPITAL
ST PETER'S HOSPITAL
ST RICHARD'S HOSPITAL
ST THOMAS' HOSPITAL (RJ122)
THE MAIDSTONE HOSPITAL
THE TUNBRIDGE WELLS HOSPITAL
UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL LEWISHAM
WILLIAM HARVEY HOSPITAL (ASHFORD)
WORTHING HOSPITAL (RYR18)

LL3:
CONQUEST HOSPITAL
CROYDON UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL
DARENT VALLEY HOSPITAL
EAST SURREY HOSPITAL (RTP04)
EASTBOURNE DISTRICT GENERAL HOSPITAL (RXC02)
EPSOM GENERAL HOSPITAL
FRIMLEY PARK HOSPITAL (RDU01)
GUY'S HOSPITAL
Kent & Canterbury Hospital (RVVKC)
Kent and Medway NHS and Social Care Partnership Trust
KENT AND MEDWAY PARTNERSHIP TRUST (KMPT)
KING'S COLLEGE HOSPITAL (DENMARK HILL)
MEDWAY MARITIME HOSPITAL (RPA02)
PRINCESS ROYAL UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL (RYQ30)
QUEEN ELIZABETH HOSPITAL
QUEEN ELIZABETH THE QUEEN MOTHER HOSPITAL
ST HELIER HOSPITAL
ST PETER'S HOSPITAL
ST RICHARD'S HOSPITAL
ST THOMAS' HOSPITAL (RJ122)
THE MAIDSTONE HOSPITAL
THE TUNBRIDGE WELLS HOSPITAL
UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL LEWISHAM
WILLIAM HARVEY HOSPITAL (ASHFORD)
WORTHING HOSPITAL (RYR18)

Continuity:
ABRAHAM COWLEY UNIT
Berkeley House
Bridgewell House
CONQUEST HOSPITAL
CROYDON UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL
DARENT VALLEY HOSPITAL
EAST SURREY HOSPITAL (RTP04)
EASTBOURNE DISTRICT GENERAL HOSPITAL (RXC02)
EPSOM GENERAL HOSPITAL
FARNHAM ROAD HOSPITAL
FRIMLEY PARK HOSPITAL (RDU01)
GUY'S HOSPITAL
Kent & Canterbury Hospital (RVVKC)
Kent and Medway NHS and Social Care Partnership Trust
KENT AND MEDWAY PARTNERSHIP TRUST (KMPT)
KING'S COLLEGE HOSPITAL (DENMARK HILL)
KINGSTON HOSPITAL (RAX01)
MEDWAY MARITIME HOSPITAL (RPA02)
Millwood Clinic (RX2H1)
PRINCESS ROYAL HOSPITAL (RXH09)
PRINCESS ROYAL UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL (RYQ30)
QUEEN ELIZABETH HOSPITAL
QUEEN ELIZABETH THE QUEEN MOTHER HOSPITAL
ROYAL SURREY COUNTY HOSPITAL
ROYAL SUSSEX COUNTY HOSPITAL
ST GEORGE'S HOSPITAL
ST HELIER HOSPITAL
ST PETER'S HOSPITAL
ST RICHARD'S HOSPITAL
ST THOMAS' HOSPITAL (RJ122)
ST. WILFRIDS HOSPICE (G81670)
Sussex Partnership NHS Foundation Trust (RX200)
THE MAIDSTONE HOSPITAL
THE TUNBRIDGE WELLS HOSPITAL
UNITHER HOUSE
UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL LEWISHAM
WEST PARK (RXX2TA)
WILLIAM HARVEY HOSPITAL (ASHFORD)
WORTHING HOSPITAL (RYR18)

Coast and Country:
ABRAHAM COWLEY UNIT
Bridgewell House
CONQUEST HOSPITAL
DARENT VALLEY HOSPITAL
EAST SURREY HOSPITAL (RTP04)
EASTBOURNE DISTRICT GENERAL HOSPITAL (RXC02)
FARNHAM ROAD HOSPITAL
FARNHAM ROAD HOSPITAL (RXX22)
FRIMLEY PARK HOSPITAL (RDU01)
Kent & Canterbury Hospital (RVVKC)
Kent and Medway NHS and Social Care Partnership Trust
KENT AND MEDWAY PARTNERSHIP TRUST (KMPT)
MEDWAY MARITIME HOSPITAL (RPA02)
PRINCESS ROYAL HOSPITAL (RXH09)
QUEEN ELIZABETH THE QUEEN MOTHER HOSPITAL
ROYAL SUSSEX COUNTY HOSPITAL
ST CATHERINE'S HOSPICE
ST PETER'S HOSPITAL
ST PETERS HOSPITAL (RXX16)
ST RICHARD'S HOSPITAL
ST. WILFRIDS HOSPICE (G81670)
Sussex Partnership NHS Foundation Trust (RX200)
THE MAIDSTONE HOSPITAL
THE TUNBRIDGE WELLS HOSPITAL
UNITHER HOUSE
WILLIAM HARVEY HOSPITAL (ASHFORD)
WORTHING HOSPITAL (RYR18)

Hope this helps

Please can someone give me some info on the following hospitals:
Croydon
St Helier
Epsom

And what is a doctor's mess? Is it an on call room or proper doctors accommodation at a decreased rate?

Thanks so much!
Sooo it seems like there's not a massive difference between the London links??
I'm not familiar with Croydon, St Helier or Epsom hospitals so can't really give any info, sorry!
And the doctors mess from what I understand is just a social space where you can have a break etc and some have couches and bedding so you can sleep there as well if you're on call, but I think many places have got rid of their mess so you won't find one everywhere.

Accommodation would not normally be IN the hospital but rather on the hospital grounds or just outside and they're basically like student halls.
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The LLs all seem so similar so I'm going to do it by rotation - I'm going to go through the lists fully and see which subpref has more of the rotations that I'd like, and just go for that instead; at least I'll have a better chance of doing something that I want, rather than being in the middle of nowhere.

That being said, I'm coming from the Southwest, so anywhere is closer
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I will be going to South Thames Foundation School from August 2020. Could anyone detail where I find information on which hospitals are included in the various groups (i.e. London Link 1/2/3, Continuity and Coast & Country?

Many thanks
Have you searched before making a thread?! Read the fifth post.
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I will be going to South Thames Foundation School from August 2020. Could anyone detail where I find information on which hospitals are included in the various groups (i.e. London Link 1/2/3, Continuity and Coast & Country?

Many thanks
https://www.lpmde.ac.uk/laserecruitm...rogrammes-v3-1
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Did anyone else get an email to complete a survey from [email protected] ???
not sure what it's about and why they need our info???
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Did anyone else get an email to complete a survey from [email protected] ???
not sure what it's about and why they need our info???
I didn't get that sorry! Which group have you been allocated to??
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People allocated to coast and country - where are you thinking of heading? The Guildford area looks pretty cool but not too sure where the nice places are??
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Found a useful little infographic to show the proportion of jobs in all the sub-groups - page 13 on this presentation!
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The quartiles are available now
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anyone know how popular kingston hospital is?
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I'm quite far down the list, I'm getting really demoralised ranking jobs I know I'm not going to get...
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I'm quite far down the list, I'm getting really demoralised ranking jobs I know I'm not going to get...
what link are you in?

im links 1 but bottom quartile - :/

but it isnt going to affect how i rank jobs because a wise bird told me that every1 wants different jobs and locations
im scared though
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what link are you in?

im links 1 but bottom quartile - :/
Continuity and first in bottom quartile!

It's a bit upsetting, I thought at least if I got London Links, I'd get one year in, one year out, regardless.
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Continuity and first in bottom quartile!

It's a bit upsetting, I thought at least if I got London Links, I'd get one year in, one year out, regardless.
oh babe sorry
which hospitals are you thinking of?
perhaps order the ones just outside of london ie surrey first, including the ones below?


CROYDON UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL

EAST SURREY HOSPITAL (RTP04)

EPSOM GENERAL HOSPITAL
FARNHAM ROAD HOSPITAL
FRIMLEY PARK HOSPITAL (RDU01)
KINGSTON HOSPITAL (RAX01)
ROYAL SURREY COUNTY HOSPITAL
ST GEORGE'S HOSPITAL
ST HELIER HOSPITAL
ST PETER'S HOSPITAL
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Found a useful little infographic to show the proportion of jobs in all the sub-groups - page 13 on this presentation!
I saw that too and don't know how helpful it is really.
For example there is no red (LL1) in the furthest east block of colours (representing QEQM hospital) but there are definitely LL1 jobs there
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