Why is the UK the only country not closing schools?

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Lionheartat20
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(Original post by hotchocolate66)
Because what hes doing is actually right. Closing down schools and other places will not help as once they reopen, theres a greater chance of the virus resurfacing again and infections getting higher. What hes saying is the more the population gets infected, the more resistant they become. Basically implying to develop herd immunity.
I dont like him but I think hes right on this one. By going incognito for a week or 2 weeks then resurfacing will not really help.
But if the approach is to solve this through herd immunity, rather than quarantine etc, you are looking at >300,000+ Deaths within the U.K.
You'll solve the re-infection problem after a year or so when a vaccine is finally released.
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Because this is Boris’s plan to reduce the pressure on elderly social care and those requiring expensive hospital admissions on the NHS.
The UK’s response is an absolute joke. I wouldn’t be surprise if families try and sue the government for the death of their loved ones. I certainly will if their stupidity kills my immune compromised little sister and aunt.
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(Original post by Phoenixfeather99)
Because this is Boris’s plan to reduce the pressure on elderly social care and those requiring expensive hospital admissions on the NHS.
The UK’s response is an absolute joke. I wouldn’t be surprise if families try and sue the government for the death of their loved ones. I certainly will if their stupidity kills my immune compromised little sister and aunt.
The only good thing is that hopefully if he does f*ck up, we'll get a Labour governemnt in and not a tory one. Starting to be glad labour didn't get in so they didn't have to occupy their time with this. And to think Boris said 2020 would be a "fantastic year" for the UK. Idiot.
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Im all for keep calm and carry on but closing schools should have happened already by now. Maybe they could make some compromise and close schools for a couple of months and then reopen them on GCSE AND A level exam days
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In my view - and I'm not a scientist -
I think this is the problem. There is lots of good advice out there but all anyone is hearing are idiots like Piers Morgan and Trump shouting "PANIC!!"

So engage brain cell for one second and let's shut the schools for a month. That means thousands of kids go to live with highly at risk grandparents = deaths. Then there are all those parents who have to leave work to look after kids. They work in the NHS and businesses that would lose money. Then 1 month later, we all go back to school to discover that the virus hasn't gone away and we are back to square one.

Most in the UK are going to get this virus. Fact! So it comes down to the question of how you manage this reality in a way that doesn't stretch rsources to breaking point.
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(Original post by Ferrograd)
The only good thing is that hopefully if he does f*ck up, we'll get a Labour governemnt in and not a tory one. Starting to be glad labour didn't get in so they didn't have to occupy their time with this. And to think Boris said 2020 would be a "fantastic year" for the UK. Idiot.
It doesn't matter who gets in they're all crap.
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I think this is the problem. There is lots of good advice out there but all anyone is hearing are idiots like Piers Morgan and Trump shouting "PANIC!!"

So engage brain cell for one second and let's shut the schools for a month. That means thousands of kids go to live with highly at risk grandparents = deaths. Then there are all those parents who have to leave work to look after kids. They work in the NHS and businesses that would lose money. Then 1 month later, we all go back to school to discover that the virus hasn't gone away and we are back to square one.

Most in the UK are going to get this virus. Fact! So it comes down to the question of how you manage this reality in a way that doesn't stretch rsources to breaking point.
Surely ensuring 40 million get the virus is bringing resources to a breaking point, given many will require hospital treatment.
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Exactly. Most of the people are spreading rumours and causing unnecessary panic and hysteria.
Lol you reported my comment after I said that there will be more cases at university next week.
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Lol you reported my comment after I said that there will be more cases at university next week.
I didnt. When did I report your comment?
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I didnt. When did I report your comment?
Sorry! Wrong person
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(Original post by ByEeek)
I think this is the problem. There is lots of good advice out there but all anyone is hearing are idiots like Piers Morgan and Trump shouting "PANIC!!"

So engage brain cell for one second and let's shut the schools for a month. That means thousands of kids go to live with highly at risk grandparents = deaths. Then there are all those parents who have to leave work to look after kids. They work in the NHS and businesses that would lose money. Then 1 month later, we all go back to school to discover that the virus hasn't gone away and we are back to square one.

Most in the UK are going to get this virus. Fact! So it comes down to the question of how you manage this reality in a way that doesn't stretch rsources to breaking point.
Well said
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Because some people like me have a levels to do and need to go into school to actually be taught.
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Can someone guess a date for when they’ll close? I have mocks soon (not as important as official exams ik) and I really want to be prepared for the day. Yes, I’ve been revising A LOT, but in terms of calming my nerves and having a good breakfast, etc.
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(Original post by EthanolC2_H5_OH)
Basically, if they close schools, NHS workers have to take time off work to look after kids, which puts even more strain on the NHS
Or grandparents will take care of the kids, and get infected.
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Agreed
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Or grandparents will take care of the kids, and get infected.
This is what the government is saying.
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From what I have researched, there is absolutely zero evidence suggesting that someone can contract COVID-19 twice. If there is a paper/article written by a credible source somewhat suggesting this then please link it to me. Also I think the government's plan is a lot more sensible than that of France's or Ireland's as suspending schools for a few weeks will only mean children will be back during a potential peak or rise of cases, therefore aiding the spread of the virus. Suspending schools for longer will also put NHS employees out of work as they would have to look after their kids, putting strain on the NHS.
But herd immunity basically means all elderly and young people with complications basically don't make it. Boris said 'we will lose our loved ones' I guess he really meant it huh.
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Or grandparents will take care of the kids, and get infected.
with the approach advocated by Boris, a good proportion of grandparents will die in any case
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Here is a fully version of my post above, which explains in a little greater detail. Originally posted it on our TSR Doctor Forum, so I'll copy it here as I think it summarises my thoughts clearer than above.

(Original post by Lionheartat20)
The alternative to attempting to wipe this out and stop the spread of disease by aggressive quarantine is to achieve herd immunity. The latter is effectively Boris Johnson's Policy. That will take around 80-95% of the population to build immunity to the illness. For a highly infectious disease, this is closer to the 95% e.g. Measles.

Therefore Boris is saying we'll take the hit and let's get 90% of the country infected and we will then be immune. Albeit spread it out over 3 or 4 months to try to give the NHS some breathing room.
This would be estimating 45-55 million people within the UK to be infected. Resulting in deaths of around 500,000 within the U.K. The legality of accepting deaths to aim for herd immunity is highly questionable in the name of gross negligence manslaughter, which I have seen raised elsewhere already.

I would rather take the Chinese approach (and the rest of the World) and shut down infrastructure / quarantine etc. They'll get a vaccine eventually which gets around the whole herd immunity / re-infection into society problem. Their approach avoids intentionally killing 1% of our population whilst we might get a slightly better GDP U.K. economic figure for our extra deaths.

#Hugely Cynical of UK Approach

Source confirming that we plan to happily allow most of our population to be infected: https://www.ft.com/content/38a81588-...3-fe4680ea68b5
If the link is restricted, use our favourite search Engine with phrase "UK herd immunity coronavirus" and 3rd option down is FT, which gave me free access to the article in full.

No wonder we aren't bothering with FFP3 masks in A&E. The whole intention is to get the infection.....
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Because some people like me have a levels to do and need to go into school to actually be taught.
And that’s all that matters is it?
What about those who have bills to pay and businesses to run?
As long as you’re ok though....
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