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(Original post by hotchocolate66)
This flu is NOT Spanish flu or SARS.
The proper name for the virus is SARS-CoV-2. It is literally a variant of the SARS virus. It is categorically not a flu.
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Pls educate about yourself about this disease than spew things as if it's like some monstrous disease with 100% mortality rate
If you get the flu, you can just get the vaccine prior or take some antivirals. There isn't anything right now for the new coronavirus.
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(Original post by Fullofsurprises)
Closure of schools is arguably a negative given that many of the parents will be vital health workers. But there is NO excuse for leaving open mass gathering events where people are in close proximity and for not taking much more aggressive measures on widespread testing. Above all, we are going to need massive expansion of healthcare facilities and the government are doing sweet fa on that.
aren't schools (especially state secondary/upper schools, boarding schools, sixth form colleges and unis) places where there are mass gatherings?
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(Original post by hotchocolate66)
Pls educate about yourself about this disease than spew things as if it's like some monstrous disease with 100% mortality rate
Seriously? I'm not doing that at all, I've even mentioned the upper levels of the mortality rate in this thread. But, if you want the simple facts again, it is far more deadly than the flu (flu has a death rate of about 0.1% whereas Covid-19 has a death rate around 3.5%); and the biggest issue with any infectious disease, particularly a pandemic, is the capacity of the healthcare system to manage it. Spread too quickly and overload the healthcare system, or be caught completely cold by it and unable to react, and the death rate of any disease soars - that is what is happening in Wuhan where the death rates top 5%. That is what we want to avoid: we want to avoid it spreading too quickly, we want the infection rate to remain within the capacity of the healthcare system and the UKs strategy will not do that. That is why the brits are the laughing stock of Europe yet again.

Don't go round telling people to educate themselves when you have posted nothing but mind-numbing ignorance around epidemiology and **** takes about the flu (as if respiratory symptoms meant it was the same).
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(Original post by hotchocolate66)
Lmao stfu. You are clearly ignorant. Feeding into media hysteria and going crazy over it. The people who died are over 70. Not under it. So quit panicking.
They weren't all over 70.
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(Original post by hotchocolate66)
Lmao stfu. You are clearly ignorant. Feeding into media hysteria and going crazy over it. The people who died are over 70. Not under it. So quit panicking.
Not to agree with the others posts comment too much but there have been a not insignificant number of younger, or otherwise healthy, people being felled by the bug.
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Not to agree with the others posts comment too much but there have been a not insignificant number of younger, or otherwise healthy, people being felled by the bug.
I honestly doubt those. Media is fuelling this virus propaganda quite a bit and has not yet mentioned any recoveries. If someone aged 21 died due to an existing illness and caught the virus, the media will say coronavirus killed then instead of listing out the issues the person had.
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(Original post by hotchocolate66)
I honestly doubt those. Media is fuelling this virus propaganda quite a bit and has not yet mentioned any recoveries. If someone aged 21 died due to an existing illness and caught the virus, the media will say coronavirus killed then instead of listing out the issues the person had.
This is the reports coming out of italian hospitals and the like (never mind the Chinese examples) I'm merely saying that whilst it's a fact young healthy people tend to not get hit particularly badly by it this is not a universal truism. and there have been documented cases of a healthy young chap walking in the front door and leaving via the back.
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(Original post by Napp)
This is the reports coming out of italian hospitals and the like (never mind the Chinese examples) I'm merely saying that whilst it's a fact young healthy people tend to not get hit particularly badly by it this is not a universal truism. and there have been documented cases of a healthy young chap walking in the front door and leaving via the back.
Italy is probably the worst example imo. It's on a lockdown yet has failed to show any good results with the lockdown. Goes on to show it doesnt work that say.
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(Original post by hotchocolate66)
Italy is probably the worst example imo. It's on a lockdown yet has failed to show any good results with the lockdown. Goes on to show it doesnt work that say.
Maybe the lockdown itself wasn't the problem? Maybe people didn't follow it? Maybe it was implemented too late?
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Maybe the lockdown itself wasn't the problem? Maybe people didn't follow it? Maybe it was implemented too late?
The purpose of the lockdown was to stop the virus. They couldn't. Spain is on lockdown but still numbers haven't reduced. The virus cant be stopped. Eventually people will get it, tend to it by self isolating and move on with life.
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The purpose of the lockdown was to stop the virus. They couldn't. Spain is on lockdown but still numbers haven't reduced. The virus cant be stopped. Eventually people will get it, tend to it by self isolating and move on with life.
Except lockdown has apparently worked it countries that actually implemented it early and effectively.
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Except lockdown has apparently worked it countries that actually implemented it early and effectively.
No it hasn't. China had cases since december. The virus started circulating in Dec. The chinese authorities were silencing the journalists and blaming Honkong for spreading rumours. They introduced lockdown 2 months later and now claim their numbers have gone done which is a lie because Italy and Spain are examples which show lockdown doesnt work.
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(Original post by hotchocolate66)
Italy is probably the worst example imo. It's on a lockdown yet has failed to show any good results with the lockdown. Goes on to show it doesnt work that say.
Give them a chance it hasn't even been a week yet!
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Give them a chance it hasn't even been a week yet!
Hasn't it been 2 weeks now?
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Hasn't it been 2 weeks now?
Nearly, apologies but give them a chance say 1 month
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(Original post by 1st superstar)
Nearly, apologies but give them a chance say 1 month
It won't work. Suppressing anything doesnt kill it. You need to let it out and face it. That's all one can do. You can suppress something temporarily but that's not how it will work.
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(Original post by hotchocolate66)
Hasn't it been 2 weeks now?
No. Italy went into full lock down on the evening of Monday 9th March. Prior to midnight Sunday 8th only a few towns were in lockdown.
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Omg this hotchoc person is like 1v200 with his ignorant opinions, plz ignore him everyone.
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Omg this hotchoc person is like 1v200 with his ignorant opinions, plz ignore him everyone.
Just what I was about to say, I've seen her everywhere just chatting nonsense about coronavirus. Seems like she's trying to downplay everything, maybe so she doesn't stress herself out, but all she's achieving is coming across as completely ignorant and unwilling to reason with facts and evidence.
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