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It won't work. Suppressing anything doesnt kill it. You need to let it out and face it. That's all one can do. You can suppress something temporarily but that's not how it will work.
The purpose of lockdowns and isolation is to flatten the curve, spread cases out so they are few and far between so hospitals don't become overwhelmed with too many cases to handle at current capacity (see China and Italy).
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Just what I was about to say, I've seen her everywhere just chatting nonsense about coronavirus. Seems like she's trying to downplay everything, maybe so she doesn't stress herself out, but all she's achieving is coming across as completely ignorant and unwilling to reason with facts and evidence.
Posted the links already. I dont stress myself because I'm not a panic monger.
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Lmao stfu. You are clearly ignorant. Feeding into media hysteria and going crazy over it. The people who died are over 70. Not under it. So quit panicking.
No, plenty of serious cases have affected younger people, and it really doesn't matter how old the person was. The previous government strategy of herd immunity without a vaccine would have overwhelmed the NHS and killed thousands: as they are now admitting (250k at a best case scenario). So, wind your neck in, admit you were wrong and stop simping for a government that is insane and incompetent
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No. Italy went into full lock down on the evening of Monday 9th March. Prior to midnight Sunday 8th only a few towns were in lockdown.
Which with an incubation period of 3-5 days means we should start to see a slowing of new cases about now.
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No, plenty of serious cases have affected younger people, and it really doesn't matter how old the person was. The previous government strategy of herd immunity without a vaccine would have overwhelmed the NHS and killed thousands: as they are now admitting (250k at a best case scenario). So, wind your neck in, admit you were wrong and stop simping for a government that is insane and incompetent
I find it funny that countries like India keep reporting that victims are recovering and cases have slowed down even without lockdown. But countries like UK and others have a long list of deaths and panic. Strange
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I find it funny that countries like India keep reporting that victims are recovering and cases have slowed down even without lockdown. But countries like UK and others have a long list of deaths and panic. Strange
Not strange for countries where most live in abject poverty with no access to healthcare on even orders of magnitude below the scale needed.

The hundreds of millions who live in ghettos and in poor rural communities will be decimated. Governments of these countries need to manage information as much as the virus (which will run rampant through densely packed populations). This attempts mitigating panic or risks ensuing full breakdown of law and order as people riot and kill each other to gain access to food and supplies hoarded by the more well off.
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I find it funny that countries like India keep reporting that victims are recovering and cases have slowed down even without lockdown. But countries like UK and others have a long list of deaths and panic. Strange
There's some evidence that the virus doesn't cope well with hot, humid environments. However, the UK and other countries affected are not hot or humid countries, meaning that is of no use for disease control here. Now, are you going to admit you were wrong or are you going to continue to lie and post nonsense?
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There's some evidence that the virus doesn't cope well with hot, humid environments. However, the UK and other countries affected are not hot or humid countries, meaning that is of no use for disease control here. Now, are you going to admit you were wrong or are you going to continue to lie and post nonsense?
Oh really? When I was saying that viruses dont care well in heat and humidity, you all are calling it bs and attacking me for spewing nonsense and now you are saying the same thing. The irony 😂😂😂
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(Original post by Stiff Little Fingers)
There's some evidence that the virus doesn't cope well with hot, humid environments. However, the UK and other countries affected are not hot or humid countries, meaning that is of no use for disease control here. Now, are you going to admit you were wrong or are you going to continue to lie and post nonsense?
lol said this to them on another thread
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lol said this to them on another thread
When I said this exact same thing then I was spewing nonsense wasnt I?
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Oh really? When I was saying that viruses dont care well in heat and humidity, you all are calling it bs and attacking me for spewing nonsense and now you are saying the same thing. The irony 😂😂😂
The nonsense you were spewing was suggesting that that's of any relevance for the UK because we do not have a hot or humid climate, and no, 17-22 degrees is not hot.
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The nonsense you were spewing was suggesting that that's of any relevance for the UK because we do not have a hot or humid climate, and no, 17-22 degrees is not hot.
Troll comment. I always said above 25 degrees because in April, UK has gone up 28 to 32 in the last 2 years. Try again.
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Which with an incubation period of 3-5 days means we should start to see a slowing of new cases about now.
Aye, assuming no travel or folk living together
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Troll comment. I always said above 25 degrees because in April, UK has gone up 28 to 32 in the last 2 years. Try again.
Ok so I live in one of the UK's largest cities. Between number four and number seven depending on your source.

It didnt hit a high of 25C on any day in April in either 2018 nor 2019. Didnt even make 24C on any day then either. 23C for a day yup. Mostly 16-17C. Similar to Italy at the moment.
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Ok so I live in one of the UK's largest cities. Between number four and number seven depending on your source.

It didnt hit a high of 25C on any day in April in either 2018 nor 2019. Didnt even make 24C on any day then either. 23C for a day yup. Mostly 16-17C. Similar to Italy at the moment.
I live in Mondon since the last 3 years. It was 30 in April 2018. It was 28 last year. But you live here and still don't know?

You lockdown advocates love making stuff up dont you?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...mp/uk-43823074

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...mp/uk-47996418

I london it was 29 degrees in 2019 and 30 in 2018. Try again.
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I live in Mondon since the last 3 years. It was 30 in April 2018. It was 28 last year. But you live here and still don't know?

You lockdown advocates love making stuff up dont you?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...mp/uk-43823074

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...mp/uk-47996418

I london it was 29 degrees in 2019 and 30 in 2018. Try again.
I live in Glasgow.

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/...th=4&year=2019

April last year a high for the month of 23°C was reached on the 22nd.

In April 2018 a high for the month of 19°C was reached on 19th.

Or can you demonstrate I'm wrong and actually Scotland was baking? When do you expect 25°C to be reached here?

Trust me, 25 is tapps aff weather.
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(Original post by Stiff Little Fingers)
Which with an incubation period of 3-5 days means we should start to see a slowing of new cases about now.
It took a while in China and they had things locked down much more effectively and rapidly than in Italy.
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I live in Glasgow.

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/...th=4&year=2019

April last year a high for the month of 23°C was reached on the 22nd.

In April 2018 a high for the month of 19°C was reached on 19th.

Or can you demonstrate I'm wrong and actually Scotland was baking? When do you expect 25°C to be reached here?

Trust me, 25 is tapps aff weather.
I know Scotland is colder. But I live in London so isnt colder here in April. I wasnt even talking about Scotland. I'm talking about London.
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I know Scotland is colder. But I live in London so isnt colder here in April. I wasnt even talking about Scotland. I'm talking about London.
No, you were very clearly referring to the UK originally - when responding to Stiff Little Fingers who specifically said the UK.

I'm not even talking about Scotland - Manchester, Liverpool, Belfast, Newcastle, Leeds are much the same.
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Deaths per day (forecast by Imperial College Covid-19 Response Team if we had continued to follow Boris and Dominic's original advice.

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20,000 deaths a day at peak in mid-May.

https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2020/03/...t--in-detail-/
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