So you're into public and criminal law then? You're better off fighting for democracy in the political arena, especially as judges have so few powers. If I really wanted to assault the legal people I'd pick up every unduly lenient sentence I could find, like the case of Joey Barton. Then there are other miscarriages of justice whether it's Derek Bentley, Stefan Kizsko or Petra Blanksby - all three of whom fell victim to the criminal justice system one way or another. For the record, we live in an elected dictatorship.
Unfortunately, too many people go to university for job prospects I feel, which is getting rid of academia in a way. There's an article on it from The Guardian I'd happily dig out for you.
Judges have huge powers ranging across the constitutional scope of law, lest us not forget that it was judges who made marrital rape illegal and countless other issues are handled by judges well, and who knows I may well go into politics.
I could tell you I knew you to be a guardian reader and frankly whats wrong with an elected dictatorship, whats wrong with a fully fledged one. I mean thats an arguement I shant get onto now but as I am sat here with my Times and Telegraph I think I'll be ok without your left wing, Utopian ideals, miscarriages of justice do occur but they would do so in any system
Judges have huge powers ranging across the constitutional scope of law, lest us not forget that it was judges who made marrital rape illegal and countless other issues are handled by judges well, and who knows I may well go into politics.
I could tell you I knew you to be a guardian reader and frankly whats wrong with an elected dictatorship, whats wrong with a fully fledged one. I mean thats an arguement I shant get onto now but as I am sat here with my Times and Telegraph I think I'll be ok without your left wing, Utopian ideals, miscarriages of justice do occur but they would do so in any system
Tony
The Torygraph for the Tory Tony eh? Still could be worse I suppose, you could read the daily expreSS. British judges are weak compared to American judges and R v R was a miscarriage of justice in a sense. It should never have taken so long to make marital rape a crime in 1991. Should have been done long ago. If you're really into justice, you should have studied criminal justice or something.
Still no thoughts on the Guardian article but just a personal attack to my readership? Great attribute for a politician though. You're learning fast. Keep it up ned.
R.v R was a case waiting to just coem up and would have been sorted long before and who wants judges as powerful as American ones, we have a fantastic constitution, as uncodiified as it . Please dont patronise me either
So you're into public and criminal law then? You're better off fighting for democracy in the political arena, especially as judges have so few powers. If I really wanted to assault the legal people I'd pick up every unduly lenient sentence I could find, like the case of Joey Barton. Then there are other miscarriages of justice whether it's Derek Bentley, Stefan Kizsko or Petra Blanksby - all three of whom fell victim to the criminal justice system one way or another. For the record, we live in an elected dictatorship.
Most people would find the elected dictatorship a juxtaposition. Lets face it, we may as well take out a lot of the elected part. Our electoral and political systems are farcical...
Unfortunately, too many people go to university for job prospects I feel, which is getting rid of academia in a way. There's an article on it from The Guardian I'd happily dig out for you.
Blame that one on the dumbing down of education in general. MA's become degrees, degrees become A levels, GCSE's become irrelevant.
Edit: Here is a thread on it, and the Guardian article is here.
The law needs to be checked but it also needs to be enforced and reduce crimes too. How many people do you think die on the roads, whether their fault or not, every day in the country? Take a guess. And let me know when a drink driver kills gets a manslaughter charge. I'll have a better view of the law when it does.
Judges have huge powers ranging across the constitutional scope of law, lest us not forget that it was judges who made marrital rape illegal and countless other issues are handled by judges well, and who knows I may well go into politics.
Remember, any decision made by a judge can be overuled by parliament in effect.
I could tell you I knew you to be a guardian reader and frankly whats wrong with an elected dictatorship, whats wrong with a fully fledged one.
You mean because he isn't sprouting Rees-Mogg and Finkelstein like prose out of his arse?
As for a fully fledged dictatorship, dictatorship only works with the right dictator. Unfortunately those people are rare, and are very unlikely to rise to the top.
I mean thats an arguement I shant get onto now but as I am sat here with my Times and Telegraph I think I'll be ok without your left wing, Utopian ideals, miscarriages of justice do occur but they would do so in any system Tony
Left wing idealists cause far less harm than the right wing ones.
R.v R was a case waiting to just coem up and would have been sorted long before and who wants judges as powerful as American ones, we have a fantastic constitution, as uncodiified as it . Please dont patronise me either
We have a fantastic constitution now do we? You mean like the possibility of going to war without Parliament's consent? We have both Houses of Parliament that are not representative of the electorate. We have political parties winning the most seats and not gaining power, parties gaining 25% of the vote and getting 2% of the seats, we have rendition flights, arguments over MPs expenses, get done over by the Americans with one-way 'agreements'. Oh and we had a government who kicked natives out of their own islands in the name of America.
Patronise you eh? What books have you read on the constitution? Still, Oxbridge hold the bias in Parliament and the judiciary so it will be difficult for you.
My point was that a miscarriage of justice is not limited to a person being found guilty of a crime when he or she was innocent. The whole criminal process needs to be taken into account. Justice needs to be served by the state to those who have lost their loved ones, family or friends. Giving someone an extortionate sentence for a minor crime and an unduly lenient one to a harsh crime is also a miscarriage of justice, as would abuse of criminal procedure from the police too. Not only must justice be done but it must be seen to be done.
To help out all the unsavouries in a human world over this, it's probably more effective getting into politics and holding a position of high office such as Home Secretary rather than being a lawyer. Lawyers, and everyone else, can only do so much.
My point was that a miscarriage of justice is not limited to a person being found guilty of a crime when he or she was innocent. The whole criminal process needs to be taken into account. Justice needs to be served by the state to those who have lost their loved ones, family or friends. Giving someone an extortionate sentence for a minor crime and an unduly lenient one to a harsh crime is also a miscarriage of justice, as would abuse of criminal procedure from the police too. Not only must justice be done but it must be seen to be done.
The notion of justice is a bad one, it seems more eye for an eye to me than anything that is needed. Our legal system should purely be there to protect the public and act as a deterrent against crime.
To help out all the unsavouries in a human world over this, it's probably more effective getting into politics and holding a position of high office such as Home Secretary rather than being a lawyer. Lawyers, and everyone else, can only do so much.
It depends how you want to help, being a politician you have to reach the top (difficult) and once there your primary consideration is political survival as opposed what should be done. In some respects lawyers can do more, and especially they can see the effects of what they have done in serving justice. Can a home secretary say on a personal level they have really impacted someone's life?
Can a home secretary say on a personal level they have really impacted someone's life?
Implementation of new sentencing programmes which prove a reduction in crime? Or the introduction in restorative justice? Think we'd better stop in case City explodes.
Implementation of new sentencing programmes which prove a reduction in crime? Or the introduction in restorative justice? Think we'd better stop in case City explodes.
Ha, but political reality makes both of those very difficult to implement, and anyway they are both rather impersonal.
And given City think's Aidans should be demolished, he can go **** himself.
And given City think's Aidans should be demolished, he can go **** himself.
Architecture is not everything. Otherwise he'd prefer King's to LSE for law. Not sure if he does though. Still, the head chef at St Aidan's has to teach all the other college chefs how to cook so there are merits, we're just not eye candy.
Architecture is not everything. Otherwise he'd prefer King's to LSE for law. Not sure if he does though. Still, the head chef at St Aidan's has to teach all the other college chefs how to cook so there are merits, we're just not eye candy.
Outside doesn't look amazing, but inside all the rooms are very nicely done up, and of course the food...
IN CONCLUSION, there are no best or worst colleges, the only way you can tell which one is for you is by visiting, talking to people who are actually there and making a decision for yourself.