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Not being attractive to women (is this the reason?)

Ok so, I know the title sounds self-pitying but hear me out.

I’m not saying i’m ugly nor do I hate myself nor wish I was born as a different person etc.

I’m only saying i’m Not attracting girls/girls aren’t attracted to me.

Here’s what I think is the major factor - I’ve never been one of those guys who just has loads of girls wanting to talk to him nor am I the type of guy who’s close to females in general nor do I have dating options at my disposal. And the attractive guys usually have all of those traits despite them doing drugs, partying a lot etc. These traits as well is something i’m Not keen on having.

So hypothetically, if a girl chooses me, I would feel lucky because she found me more attractive than someone else (though it’s extremely rare). This is what I believe is the same with when those particular guys choose girls, they find that one particular girl more attractive than the options he has.

Lastly, i’ve spoken to guys who had girls giving them a sign but, not taking any action. Well personally speaking, even with the girls that did like me, never gave me a sign! :/ I’m usually told that they like me.

Even so, many guys I speak to act like I can pull and get loads of girls and stuff but, honestly i’ve Never been that type of guy nor am I capable of being that guy nor do I want to be like that 😂.

What do you guys think? Should I just wait until I find the right person or do I have to become one of those guys to get a girl?
Stop trying to pull girls and pull up your grades, education lasts forever but girls and the hype are temporary
Reply 2
Partying and doing drugs is only attractive to a particular type of girl, so if you want a girlfriend who is shallow and has few values, carry on. How many guys like that are actually having meaningful relationships? Very few, if they are always pulling loads of girls.

Stop worrying about a girlfriend, it can come over as desperate. And when things settle down, expand your social circle by doing things that interest you, so you find people with something in common and can learn how to speak with girls as friends, rather than as potential dates.
Reply 3
OP here.

I’m liking the answers here! :smile: really reassuring!!
Reply 4
focus on yourself before pursing a woman
Reply 5
Original post by Surnia
Partying and doing drugs is only attractive to a particular type of girl, so if you want a girlfriend who is shallow and has few values, carry on. How many guys like that are actually having meaningful relationships? Very few, if they are always pulling loads of girls.

Stop worrying about a girlfriend, it can come over as desperate. And when things settle down, expand your social circle by doing things that interest you, so you find people with something in common and can learn how to speak with girls as friends, rather than as potential dates.


It’s obvious that this is female advice. Clearly out of touch with what normal everyday guys struggle through to find success with women, whether that be at school/college, uni or beyond.

The majority of girls at universities in this country do initiate relationships through partying and alcohol/drugs. It’s useless to suggest that a guy will get anywhere with girls if he avoids that. Put yourself out there (as the saying goes) and what better way to do that than take part in things where plenty of girls hang out? Unless you want to go for the bookworm/nerd/social outcast type of girl, in which case good luck.

Something else blatantly obvious to all the guys out there who have tried developing a connection with a girl. Girls want to be spoken to in a certain way for them to develop interest in a guy. Talk to them like friends, you end up in the friend zone which is hard to get out of.
Original post by asif007
It’s obvious that this is female advice. Clearly out of touch with what normal everyday guys struggle through to find success with women, whether that be at school/college, uni or beyond.

The majority of girls at universities in this country do initiate relationships through partying and alcohol/drugs. It’s useless to suggest that a guy will get anywhere with girls if he avoids that. Put yourself out there (as the saying goes) and what better way to do that than take part in things where plenty of girls hang out? Unless you want to go for the bookworm/nerd/social outcast type of girl, in which case good luck.

Something else blatantly obvious to all the guys out there who have tried developing a connection with a girl. Girls want to be spoken to in a certain way for them to develop interest in a guy. Talk to them like friends, you end up in the friend zone which is hard to get out of.


There isn't just one way to start a relationship. I don't know of any relationships personally (that ended in a real relationship) that started with partying, alcohol or drugs. Parties aren't the only places to find women and women are not just split into party girls and social outcasts. It's also important to have a level of friendship in any lasting relationship and many relationships do stem from friendship
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Original post by OctoberRain7
There isn't just one way to start a relationship. I don't know of any relationships personally (that ended in a real relationship) that started with partying, alcohol or drugs. Parties aren't the only places to find women and women are not just split into party girls and social outcasts. It's also important to have a level of friendship in any lasting relationship and many relationships do stem from friendship



Of course there are plenty of ways to start relationships. But at uni, the only acceptable way to most girls is to party hard. That’s exactly my point: no one is looking for a “real relationship” at uni when the majority of them start with partying. My best advice to the OP is to seek out casual relationships and things that don’t have to last very long. At least he gets the experience of dealing with women instead of struggling to get anywhere with them. I think it’s better to have multiple short-term relationships one after another and keep seeking out something more long term when you’re ready for it, instead of spending years out of the game just sitting watching opportunities go by because you avoided partying. Relationships come from friendships yes, and where are friendships at uni cemented? Over alcohol in nightclubs with loud music. I think you’ll find in fact that it is only sociable girls or outcasts - there is no in-between. You can tell a lot about a girl by how she behaves while socialising, whether that’s in a nightclub or not.
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Original post by asif007
Of course there are plenty of ways to start relationships. But at uni, the only acceptable way to most girls is to party hard. That’s exactly my point: no one is looking for a “real relationship” at uni when the majority of them start with partying. My best advice to the OP is to seek out casual relationships and things that don’t have to last very long. At least he gets the experience of dealing with women instead of struggling to get anywhere with them. I think it’s better to have multiple short-term relationships one after another and keep seeking out something more long term when you’re ready for it, instead of spending years out of the game just sitting watching opportunities go by because you avoided partying. Relationships come from friendships yes, and where are friendships at uni cemented? Over alcohol in nightclubs with loud music. I think you’ll find in fact that it is only sociable girls or outcasts - there is no in-between. You can tell a lot about a girl by how she behaves while socialising, whether that’s in a nightclub or not.

OP here, while I do appreciate the advice. I'm not a fan of casual relationships in general, since casual relationships usually involve two people with the same sort wavelength, which also includes partying (and also heavily relies on looks which I'm outmatched by). Now, I have partied don't get me wrong but, I'm not the type of person to rely on alcohol for fun nor do I want to spend the night taking care of my friends when they're super drunk nor do I have those "OMG what have i done?" nights. No matter how hard I try, I can never be that sort of person because deep down inside I'm introverted and too stubborn and too conservative (And just maybe not being British has something to do with that despite living in England for a long time but, I can never understand their mentality for the life of me)

I will say you are dead right on you can tell a lot about a girl by how she behaves while socialising 😂😂, now I have met some really good ones and they're usually sober but, the REALLY bad ones are in nightclubs. Seriously, girls just find me utterly repulsive in nightclubs and I literally do nothing lol, no approaching, no trying, NOTHING and they just give me the "you got bad vibes" look 😂😂
Reply 9
Original post by asif007
It’s obvious that this is female advice. Clearly out of touch with what normal everyday guys struggle through to find success with women, whether that be at school/college, uni or beyond.

The majority of girls at universities in this country do initiate relationships through partying and alcohol/drugs. It’s useless to suggest that a guy will get anywhere with girls if he avoids that. Put yourself out there (as the saying goes) and what better way to do that than take part in things where plenty of girls hang out? Unless you want to go for the bookworm/nerd/social outcast type of girl, in which case good luck.

Something else blatantly obvious to all the guys out there who have tried developing a connection with a girl. Girls want to be spoken to in a certain way for them to develop interest in a guy. Talk to them like friends, you end up in the friend zone which is hard to get out of.


I know lots of normal everyday guys and girls who didn't get into relationships through partying, alcohol or drugs. Moreover, these people are in happy, long-term relationships.
Reply 10
Original post by asif007
Of course there are plenty of ways to start relationships. But at uni, the only acceptable way to most girls is to party hard. That’s exactly my point: no one is looking for a “real relationship” at uni when the majority of them start with partying. My best advice to the OP is to seek out casual relationships and things that don’t have to last very long. At least he gets the experience of dealing with women instead of struggling to get anywhere with them. I think it’s better to have multiple short-term relationships one after another and keep seeking out something more long term when you’re ready for it, instead of spending years out of the game just sitting watching opportunities go by because you avoided partying. Relationships come from friendships yes, and where are friendships at uni cemented? Over alcohol in nightclubs with loud music. I think you’ll find in fact that it is only sociable girls or outcasts - there is no in-between. You can tell a lot about a girl by how she behaves while socialising, whether that’s in a nightclub or not.

Being 'sociable' means being friendly; it does not have to involve partying, alcohol or drugs, nor are girls who don't do those things 'outcasts'.
Reply 11
asif's advice is great btw.
Like guys, most girls have no idea what they want.
What i will say though is that the defining difference between you and the guys who you're talking about is charisma and NOTHING else
Reply 12
Original post by Zasty
asif's advice is great btw.
Like guys, most girls have no idea what they want.
What i will say though is that the defining difference between you and the guys who you're talking about is charisma and NOTHING else

How much credibility does advice have that comes from someone who thinks girls who don't party are bookish, nerdy social outcasts and there's nothing inbetween? There are far more degrees to people's personalities that that, and I mean guys and girls.

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