Oxford University bans society that no-platformed Amber Rudd

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An Oxford society which cancelled a speech by former Home Secretary Amber Rudd has been barred by university authorities for breaching free speech guidelines.

The UN Women Oxford UK society caused an uproar earlier this month after its committee axed Ms Rudd's talk with just 30 minutes' notice.

It was cancelled because of students complaining about the ex-Minister's role in the Windrush scandal.

"Following a majority vote in committee, tonight’s event with speaker Amber Rudd has been cancelled.”

“We are deeply sorry for all and any hurt caused to our members and other wom*n and non-binary people in Oxford over this event.”

"We acknowledge that our perspective is biased by a certain amount of privilege and we want to hear concerns from more marginalised groups of women who feel under-represented. We also recognise that we are imperfect so would love to hear your thoughts on this and any other topics, even if you can’t attend our events in person"

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/18...ed-amber-rudd/
https://www.oxfordstudent.com/2020/0...ls-amber-rudd/
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This is good news. BUT it needs to go further. The INDIVIDUALS need to be held to account by barring them from holding any similar positions for a significant period of time. These leftist nutjobs will not stop until they personally feel some pain. Let them eat their own medicine. They wanted to muzzle others ... so it stands to reason that they themselves should now be muzzled.
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(Original post by ukrj)
This is good news. BUT it needs to go further. The INDIVIDUALS need to be held to account by barring them from holding any similar positions for a significant period of time. These leftist nutjobs will not stop until they personally feel some pain. Let them eat their own medicine. They wanted to muzzle others ... so it stands to reason that they themselves should now be muzzled.
Poetic. however, i trust the irony is not lost on you?
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It is a shame as these idiots have now made it much harder for other small Oxford societies to get prestigious speakers. I remember sitting in an audience of about 15 to listen to Lord Adonis talk about his career - such a great speaker, such a great experience.
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‘If liberty means anything at all it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.’
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Poetic. however, i trust the irony is not lost on you?
Now that’s true liberalism
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Essentially, they've been deregistered from the list of societies and can't advertise at Freshers' Week.

This should serve as a warning to leftists; opposing freedom of speech may lead to your platform being taken away by the university.
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Did they actually use ‘wom*n’ in their official statement? 🙄
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Essentially, they've been deregistered from the list of societies and can't advertise at Freshers' Week.

This should serve as a warning to leftists; opposing freedom of speech may lead to your platform being taken away by the university.
Leftists and liberals oppose free speech all the time, yet they claim it’s all about ‘free speech’
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Leftists and liberals oppose free speech all the time, yet they claim it’s all about ‘free speech’
”Freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequences” - Mike Stuchbery, self-proclaimed Antifa member and owner of about 6 chins.
Ah, Antifa. The group where wearing all black and a balaclava while you put a brick through the Conservative Club's window isn't fascist, but making a joke about a form of religious garment is.
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Ah, good to see the "Freeze Peach" group advocating for the erasure of free speech under gross authoritarianism while pretending it's free speech.

Completely the wrong decision, and the society were in the right. They did nothing wrong, Amber Rudd is entitled to voice her own opinion, she is not entitled to be given a platform and an audience for it though
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'[UN Women Oxford society] had urged students to attend the event "to help campaign for a truly frank feminism which is not afraid of taking opportunities to discuss issues with high profile figures".' [BBC]

Womp womp.
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Free speech doesn't require people give you a platform, or to listen to you. It's somewhat ironic that the university's definition does require this, but then they directly contradict this by essentially "no platforming" their own students.
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Ah, good to see the "Freeze Peach" group advocating for the erasure of free speech under gross authoritarianism while pretending it's free speech.

Completely the wrong decision, and the society were in the right. They did nothing wrong, Amber Rudd is entitled to voice her own opinion, she is not entitled to be given a platform and an audience for it though
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Free speech doesn't require people give you a platform, or to listen to you. It's somewhat ironic that the university's definition does require this, but then they directly contradict this by essentially "no platforming" their own students.
You are both made of the same stuff as those fascistic muppets wanting to suppress anything that doesn't sing to their tune and we've had enough of little Hitlers and assorted wannabe-dictators, hopefully there will always be more of us than you lot. Put it in you pipe and smoke it, well done to Ox for refusing to bow to the forces of darkness.
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If you think that requiring civilians to invest their own limited resources (time and money) to provide a platform for the government in power to express its rhetoric is not authoritarian, and that if they refuse to do so they should be punished for it by being censored and censured, and accuse people defending them of being fascists, then you may want to remind yourself of the definition of authoritarianism and fascism in the first instance.
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Ah, good to see the "Freeze Peach" group advocating for the erasure of free speech under gross authoritarianism while pretending it's free speech.

Completely the wrong decision, and the society were in the right. They did nothing wrong, Amber Rudd is entitled to voice her own opinion, she is not entitled to be given a platform and an audience for it though
Completely the wrong opinion, and Oxford are in the right. They've done nothing wrong, the Women's Society are entitled to voice an opinion, they just aren't entitled to a platform and an audience for it.
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I really don’t think this is a matter of free speech, societies can choose who they invite or don’t invite, but humiliating a politician by removing her invitation 30 minutes before she was due to speak is shocking and unnecessary. The university have taken the right action imo.
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Completely the wrong opinion, and Oxford are in the right. They've done nothing wrong, the Women's Society are entitled to voice an opinion, they just aren't entitled to a platform and an audience for it.
Except of course that's not what's happened here, they're being barred for not being a captive audience for Amber Rudd. The university's message is authoritarian and ironically anti free-speech, silencing any criticism of Amber Rudd, and because right wing grifters have never cared about actual free speech, only about silencing anyone who disagrees with them on the basis of "muh freeze peach", of course they're celebrating this
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Except of course that's not what's happened here, they're being barred for not being a captive audience for Amber Rudd. The university's message is authoritarian and ironically anti free-speech, silencing any criticism of Amber Rudd, and because right wing grifters have never cared about actual free speech, only about silencing anyone who disagrees with them on the basis of "muh freeze peach", of course they're celebrating this
You know they invited Amber Rudd, right?

I also think that the way it was done - just hours beforehand - was just so rude and unprofessional.

The uni is not blocking their free speech in any way - it just doesn't want to be associated with people who act like that, and that's great for the other societies who do act like adults.
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(Original post by Stiff Little Fingers)
Except of course that's not what's happened here, they're being barred for not being a captive audience for Amber Rudd. The university's message is authoritarian and ironically anti free-speech, silencing any criticism of Amber Rudd, and because right wing grifters have never cared about actual free speech, only about silencing anyone who disagrees with them on the basis of "muh freeze peach", of course they're celebrating this
I think you have massively misunderstood what's going on. Oxford banning the Women's Society doesn't mean that students can't join the Women's Society, that it can't exist as a group or that it can't get together at uni. It just means that they won't get a table at Freshers Week and they won't be able to advertise for members on the uni website.

And being right wing and saying that Oxford has the right to choose who they want to associate with and what societies they want to promote doesn't make you a grifter - it's supporting freedom of association and freedom of speech. Oxford have the right to decide not to support a society of radfems that can't handle opposing views or spell the word ”women”, which is what they have done.
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