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Ok, so this might be a dumb question but I can't find a definitive answer anywhere.

I am currently considering applying for a PhD studentship with this info:

The award pays full maintenance for UK citizens and residents only. The National Minimum Doctoral Stipend for 2020/21 is £15,285, *plus a CDP maintenance payment of £600/year and an allowance of £1000/year.

Is this for the duration of the 3 years or do I get that amount of money yearly? I suspect it's the latter but how do people survive?
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That is the amount you get paid per year. Depending on your course/department some people are able to add to it by taking on teaching committments and similar.
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Per year.

It's quite easy to live on really, Universal credit + housing benefit pays £8000 per year and people survive, that's double it.
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POer year.

It's quite easy to live on really, Universal credit + housing benefit pays £8000 per year and people survive, that's double it.
If it’s per year then it’s a decent amount to live on. I meant if it was for the three years it would be hard.
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Ok, so this might be a dumb question but I can't find a definitive answer anywhere.

I am currently considering applying for a PhD studentship with this info:

The award pays full maintenance for UK citizens and residents only. The National Minimum Doctoral Stipend for 2020/21 is £15,285, *plus a CDP maintenance payment of £600/year and an allowance of £1000/year.

Is this for the duration of the 3 years or do I get that amount of money yearly? I suspect it's the latter but how do people survive?
Remember that this is a tax-free amount, so a yearly amount of nearly £17K tax-free is equivalent to a taxable salary of more than £20K.

A lot of working people would struggle to understand your incredulity of 'how can a single person survive on a salary of £20,000+ per annum'.
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Remember that this is a tax-free amount, so a yearly amount of nearly £17K tax-free is equivalent to a taxable salary of more than £20K.

A lot of working people would struggle to understand your incredulity of 'how can a single person survive on a salary of £20,000+ per annum'.
Again, I was referring to the possibility of this amount covering the whole three years.
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Hi,

My PhD funding is similar to yours. Yes, I got that amount on a yearly basis which is divided in 12 months for 3 years (well for me it's 3.5 years). So, each month you'll get roughly £1200 monthly (more or less).

The CDP maintenance is additional when you are going to conferences (I'm guessing anyway, not 100% sure).
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Hi Just thought I'd comment I'm currently, a PhD student on a stipend, they took most of my stipend into account for Universal Credit and left me with £80.00 a month! As a single parent of 2 kids, this left £1300 a month to live on, which as a single person is very comfortable, but as a parent, it is a struggle particularly when it was a huge drop from £2100 when I did my full-time masters and job.
It is because they class it as 'unearned income' which is total rubbish as I work more now than ever! However, providing you're not applying for a 'Research Council stipend' you will be entitled to the postgraduate loan which is £25,700 a year ( although think it may have gone up). I didn't know this and have struggled for 7 months! But it has now been paid into my account, so might be worth considering! If you have a masters loan, you make the repayments with this so essentially it isn't really another loan.
Hope this helps and good luck
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If it’s per year then it’s a decent amount to live on. I meant if it was for the three years it would be hard.
My experience of a PhD stipend 6 months, I get barely any universal credit it’s £80a month including the housing element despite having two dependents.
But I found out recently as long as the funding is not from a research council you can still get the doctoral loan, which is around £25700 across the four years.

Much more manageable! Good luck!
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Ok, so this might be a dumb question but I can't find a definitive answer anywhere.

I am currently considering applying for a PhD studentship with this info:

The award pays full maintenance for UK citizens and residents only. The National Minimum Doctoral Stipend for 2020/21 is £15,285, *plus a CDP maintenance payment of £600/year and an allowance of £1000/year.

Is this for the duration of the 3 years or do I get that amount of money yearly? I suspect it's the latter but how do people survive?
I have an AHRC PhD studentship via the NWCDTP. My doctoral stipend (£15,009 per annum -slightly less than the 2020/21 figure as I started my PhD in 2019) is paid quarterly in January, April, July, and October. Via the NWCDTP I also have access to various funds that I can apply to in order to secure additional money to help me complete research activities such as attending training days/conferences, organising events related to my doctoral project, or completing placements/research abroad.

Different universities and DTPs may have other arrangements for paying stipends but the £15,000 in the advert you've seen is likely to be an annual amount - so the studentship 'pays' £45,000 over the 3 years. Most studentships also include full payment of your tuition fees - the doctoral stipend is your maintenance grant and, as a few people here have said, it's tax-free.

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Hi Just thought I'd comment I'm currently, a PhD student on a stipend, they took most of my stipend into account for Universal Credit and left me with £80.00 a month! As a single parent of 2 kids, this left £1300 a month to live on, which as a single person is very comfortable, but as a parent, it is a struggle particularly when it was a huge drop from £2100 when I did my full-time masters and job.
It is because they class it as 'unearned income' which is total rubbish as I work more now than ever! However, providing you're not applying for a 'Research Council stipend' you will be entitled to the postgraduate loan which is £25,700 a year ( although think it may have gone up). I didn't know this and have struggled for 7 months! But it has now been paid into my account, so might be worth considering! If you have a masters loan, you make the repayments with this so essentially it isn't really another loan.
Hope this helps and good luck
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My experience of a PhD stipend 6 months, I get barely any universal credit it’s £80a month including the housing element despite having two dependents.
But I found out recently as long as the funding is not from a research council you can still get the doctoral loan, which is around £25700 across the four years.

Much more manageable! Good luck!
Hi Robyn, I'm starting my PhD this month but I've also been entitled to UC during my undergrad- do you have to call them up to let them know you're receiving your stipend because the online system for UC isn't set up to acknowledge a change in income that doesn't involve getting a job.
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Hi Robyn, I'm starting my PhD this month but I've also been entitled to UC during my undergrad- do you have to call them up to let them know you're receiving your stipend because the online system for UC isn't set up to acknowledge a change in income that doesn't involve getting a job.
Hi there congratulations on starting a PhD!!! Whats your research?

So I originally reported mine as a job as I had a contract and the stipend! But that wasn’t the right way, and they rejected it. So, I put a note on my journal then they asked for evidence which i provided. Do you have any dependents? Are you on a stipend or a loan or both?
For my situation they took all of the £15007 stipend as an income and left me barely anything, in UC so each month was a struggle! But when I applied for the doctoral loan they disregarded the stipend as a grant and my UC went up.

Good luck let me know if I can help 😀
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Hi Robyn,
You've given some very useful info there, thanks!
I'm a PhD student out of funding time, on UC and job searching while trying to finish off.
Ooops.
Anyway, the uni has a covid hardship grant type of thing going on, that I may get something from because of the lockdown disruption to research.
I'm curious how it worked the 2nd time for you, when the stipend was disregarded?
Don't know if I'll get anything, or how much if I do.
But if UC didn't count it as earnings that would quickly help put a dent in the old credit card / overdraft situation!
(Both maxxed out again lol)
(I can't get the postgrad loan coz I started too early, before it started.)
Take care, and hope yours is going smoother than mine has
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Hi Robyn,
You've given some very useful info there, thanks!
I'm a PhD student out of funding time, on UC and job searching while trying to finish off.
Ooops.
Anyway, the uni has a covid hardship grant type of thing going on, that I may get something from because of the lockdown disruption to research.
I'm curious how it worked the 2nd time for you, when the stipend was disregarded?
Don't know if I'll get anything, or how much if I do.
But if UC didn't count it as earnings that would quickly help put a dent in the old credit card / overdraft situation!
(Both maxxed out again lol)
(I can't get the postgrad loan coz I started too early, before it started.)
Take care, and hope yours is going smoother than mine has
As you haven't tagged this user and its 5 months since this was posted, there's a decent chance you won't get a reply
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As you haven't tagged this user and its 5 months since this was posted, there's a decent chance you won't get a reply
Thanks for replying QM! It's my 1st time on here and I don't know how to tag. I thought that it would tell previous people that there's a new reply to their discussion.
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Thanks for replying QM! It's my 1st time on here and I don't know how to tag. I thought that it would tell previous people that there's a new reply to their discussion.
It probably will but if they aren't active on here they might not see it for ages. You can quote they rmessage to notify them or type @ followed by their username (similar to social media sites)
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It probably will but if they aren't active on here they might not see it for ages. You can quote they rmessage to notify them or type @ followed by their username (similar to social media sites)
Thanks for the information!
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