why is david lloyd george not held in the same revere as Churchill?

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they both won 2 wws ?
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It was before radio. David Lloyd George also had several mistresses.
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they both won 2 wws ?
One reason, it can be argued, is that WWI was less of a victory than simply having pause pressed on it for a few years. Never mind being seen as much less necessary than WWII with the home islands never being under particularly real threat.
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World War II was a much greater struggle than World War I from our perspective. In World War I we had many allies in Europe such as France, Italy and Russia, whereas in World War II following the Fall of France Britain and its empire were on their own against the Nazis until America and the USSR joined the war. The Second World War was also much closer to home with things like the Blitz whereas in World War I very little fighting actually took place in Britain (Lloyd-George didn't have to make important speeches about fighting on the beaches, landing grounds etc. because it never reached that point). Since the struggle in the Second World War was greater I would say that this is part of the reason why Churchill is more celebrated. Also WW2 is more recent so we remember more about the people in WW2 than in WW1.
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Lloyd George was a more controversial figure. He was involved in the Marconi scandal and he sold honours such as knighthoods. Churchill was involved in controversies too but, at least I think so, to a lesser extent.
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Lloyd George only came in in December 1916. He was in the cabinet prior to that (as was Churchill, actually) but a 2 year stint in the top seat is slightly different to Churchill's 5 year period for the majority of WW2.
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(Original post by miniminx3310)
they both won 2 wws ?
WWI campaign was a mess - watch 'Oh what a lovely war!' for an idea.

"Lions led by donkeys" is a phrase used to describe the British infantry of the First World War and to blame the generals who led them. The general impression was that the brave soldiers (lions) were sent to their deaths by incompetent and indifferent leaders (donkeys). Maybe read some War poetry form that period? Dulce et Decorum Est by Wilfrid Owen is a good start.
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World War II was a much greater struggle than World War I from our perspective. In World War I we had many allies in Europe such as France, Italy and Russia, whereas in World War II following the Fall of France Britain and its empire were on their own against the Nazis until America and the USSR joined the war. The Second World War was also much closer to home with things like the Blitz whereas in World War I very little fighting actually took place in Britain (Lloyd-George didn't have to make important speeches about fighting on the beaches, landing grounds etc. because it never reached that point). Since the struggle in the Second World War was greater I would say that this is part of the reason why Churchill is more celebrated. Also WW2 is more recent so we remember more about the people in WW2 than in WW1.
But yet the impact on the overall population was possibly greater in WW1, far more UK deaths than WW2, more families impacted by a death during the first conflict.
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