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Is loneliness a bi-product of success?
In life, Grades, Salary, Looks, Body, Popularity, University Degree Rating etc, do you think that the more you get the things you want in life, the more people hate you for it? and ultimately dislike you?
I mean the more you get the more arrogant/cocky you become, people have this . I mean with all the money and sucess you could wish for.. people still feel unfurfilled?
How many of you have achieved something you craved for.. say a First or all A's a levels or someother acheivement and then when they've got it, been dissapointed and found it to be less life changing than they'd first imagined?
I mean the more you get the more arrogant/cocky you become, people have this . I mean with all the money and sucess you could wish for.. people still feel unfurfilled?
How many of you have achieved something you craved for.. say a First or all A's a levels or someother acheivement and then when they've got it, been dissapointed and found it to be less life changing than they'd first imagined?
Reply 1
Anonymous
I mean the more you get the more arrogant/cocky you become
This isn't true. And I don't really agree that lonliness is a byproduct of success, it can be, but by no means in all cases nor as a rule.
Reply 2
not if you're a successful pimp.
but seriously it is only if success results from being a social ****** and if you brag and are arrogant about being successful, in as much as you drive people away from you.
but seriously it is only if success results from being a social ****** and if you brag and are arrogant about being successful, in as much as you drive people away from you.
Reply 3
I'm going to plumb for: no.
Sure, if you spend all your time on your job, you're not going to have a great social life. Saying loneliness is a bi-product of success implies far too strong a link, though. There are many, many people considered successful who are far from lonely.
Sure, if you spend all your time on your job, you're not going to have a great social life. Saying loneliness is a bi-product of success implies far too strong a link, though. There are many, many people considered successful who are far from lonely.
Reply 4
Anonymous
In life, Grades, Salary, Looks, Body, Popularity, University Degree Rating etc, do you think that the more you get the things you want in life, the more people hate you for it? and ultimately dislike you?
I mean the more you get the more arrogant/cocky you become, people have this . I mean with all the money and sucess you could wish for.. people still feel unfurfilled?
How many of you have achieved something you craved for.. say a First or all A's a levels or someother acheivement and then when they've got it, been dissapointed and found it to be less life changing than they'd first imagined?
I mean the more you get the more arrogant/cocky you become, people have this . I mean with all the money and sucess you could wish for.. people still feel unfurfilled?
How many of you have achieved something you craved for.. say a First or all A's a levels or someother acheivement and then when they've got it, been dissapointed and found it to be less life changing than they'd first imagined?
I for one must admit that I sometimes feel dissatisfied and crave yet more... Whilst there are obvious downsides in having such personality traits, it demonstrates hunger, passion, drive...
Reply 5
Yes I do think it is.
Reply 6
Isn't it by-product?
Reply 7
The best part of achieving something is working for it they say. I think it's human nature to want more, and when people see you with more they often can get jelous and act unfairly towards you.
There was a quote i read earlier that said "Success causes envy , jealousy & hatred from the un-successful!"-Gregg Valentino
There was a quote i read earlier that said "Success causes envy , jealousy & hatred from the un-successful!"-Gregg Valentino
Reply 8
Anonymous
I don't agree with that. Yes, the more success you acheive then the potential to get more arrogant/cocky increases but I always try to remain humble, just remember there's always someone out there smarter than you, better looking that you, richer than you
Reply 9
http://www.randomhouse.co.uk/minisites/manyfacesofmen/ makes interesting reading on this one.
It depends on how "grounded" you are in terms of life experiences. People who have gone down the "Good school, good college, top university, good job" might be more susceptible to this if they haven't come face-to-face with people who really struggle at the sharp end of life. http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2008/aug/04/workandcareers.executivesalaries is an interesting illustration.
Although in a successful job, the lack of stability is one of the things that does cause loneliness - because there is little time to settle down in one place and long working hours means that time to socialise with others is restricted.
This lack of grounding within a community I think is one of the biggest factors for people in successful jobs - esp for those who have to commute and lose sometimes up to 4 hours per day just travelling to and from work. If places of work and homes were closer to each other - for example flats and houses for long term living in (rather than luxury appartment investment homes/ buy-to-lets) were built closer to places of work, commuting times might be lower, as might the strain on our transport infrastructure, leaving more time for people to engage with each other at a social and community level.
But hey, I'm an idealist...
It depends on how "grounded" you are in terms of life experiences. People who have gone down the "Good school, good college, top university, good job" might be more susceptible to this if they haven't come face-to-face with people who really struggle at the sharp end of life. http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2008/aug/04/workandcareers.executivesalaries is an interesting illustration.
Although in a successful job, the lack of stability is one of the things that does cause loneliness - because there is little time to settle down in one place and long working hours means that time to socialise with others is restricted.
This lack of grounding within a community I think is one of the biggest factors for people in successful jobs - esp for those who have to commute and lose sometimes up to 4 hours per day just travelling to and from work. If places of work and homes were closer to each other - for example flats and houses for long term living in (rather than luxury appartment investment homes/ buy-to-lets) were built closer to places of work, commuting times might be lower, as might the strain on our transport infrastructure, leaving more time for people to engage with each other at a social and community level.
But hey, I'm an idealist...
Reply 10
11
I think it can be, yes.
If you know much more than others about what you're really interested in, and are really successful, it scares off the people you once knew. It also attracts the wrong sort of people, millionaires and famous people don't know if people want to be their friends for their money and opportunities, or for their personality. And everyone involved in their lives will think they should be really happy and fulfilled because they have so much money, fame etc, when actually they're more lonely than ever, which would just add to it.
I know even just going to uni to do a good degree means that loads of people I went to school with now feel like they have nothing in common with me and don't make any effort to keep in contact. Sure, they might work in tescos and have a kid when they're really young, but that doesn't mean I don't want to know them! I've come from having down to earth friends at school, to uni with loads of public school and generally arrogant people, i'd prefer to stick with the former, but in wanting to be a doctor, it seems like being friends with certain people is a sacrifice i have to make.
If you know much more than others about what you're really interested in, and are really successful, it scares off the people you once knew. It also attracts the wrong sort of people, millionaires and famous people don't know if people want to be their friends for their money and opportunities, or for their personality. And everyone involved in their lives will think they should be really happy and fulfilled because they have so much money, fame etc, when actually they're more lonely than ever, which would just add to it.
I know even just going to uni to do a good degree means that loads of people I went to school with now feel like they have nothing in common with me and don't make any effort to keep in contact. Sure, they might work in tescos and have a kid when they're really young, but that doesn't mean I don't want to know them! I've come from having down to earth friends at school, to uni with loads of public school and generally arrogant people, i'd prefer to stick with the former, but in wanting to be a doctor, it seems like being friends with certain people is a sacrifice i have to make.
Reply 11
Anonymous
In life, Grades, Salary, Looks, Body, Popularity, University Degree Rating etc, do you think that the more you get the things you want in life, the more people hate you for it? and ultimately dislike you?
I mean the more you get the more arrogant/cocky you become, people have this . I mean with all the money and sucess you could wish for.. people still feel unfurfilled?
How many of you have achieved something you craved for.. say a First or all A's a levels or someother acheivement and then when they've got it, been dissapointed and found it to be less life changing than they'd first imagined?
I mean the more you get the more arrogant/cocky you become, people have this . I mean with all the money and sucess you could wish for.. people still feel unfurfilled?
How many of you have achieved something you craved for.. say a First or all A's a levels or someother acheivement and then when they've got it, been dissapointed and found it to be less life changing than they'd first imagined?
i don't copme from an educated background and so when i acheived 9 A's and 2 A*'s at GCSE , then followed with AAABC at AS level most of my family kind of disowned me. my mum, dad and maternal grandad (who incidently were all fairly educated) were very proud, but my aunts ect who i was close to, outcast me, and took the pi$$ out of me for my grades, claiming i had no friends so studying was all i did, and i am boring because i achieve, i know they are somewhat jealous that i will do well in life and have a high paying job, but deep down it cuts me that they think that i believe i am too good for them (as was once shouted across the christmas dinner table by my nan when i corrected my cousins speech). therefore i think the more i achieve the further away they push me, but if that what it takes to be a sucess... ****** them!
Reply 12
If you are a success then you perceive yourself as higher right... so the answer is to look for the same traits you once had in those younger than you yet likely to be similarly 'successful'
I think first of all you need to define what successful means to you... success is life-affirming by definition. Again once you feel this way and know why you'll recognise it in others easily and these people quickly attract one another...
I think first of all you need to define what successful means to you... success is life-affirming by definition. Again once you feel this way and know why you'll recognise it in others easily and these people quickly attract one another...
Reply 13
This thread is SO old!!!
Reply 14
I'd describe myself successful female. Position at uni, editor for my uni mag, captain of two societies, admired by people..
But I much prefer my own company, just a thing about me. Dealing with people/ their reactions is a measure of success, not 'being sociable'.
But I much prefer my own company, just a thing about me. Dealing with people/ their reactions is a measure of success, not 'being sociable'.
Reply 15
15
I sometimes wonder if this is the case.
I think it's more of a case of the more you work, the more lonely you become. I spend a considerable amount of my free time on my job and as such haven't spent time with friends in months.
I think it's more of a case of the more you work, the more lonely you become. I spend a considerable amount of my free time on my job and as such haven't spent time with friends in months.
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