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Medicine at University of Birmingham or Aston University

I have offers for both UoB and Aston and I am just wondering if anyone has any pros or cons for each university (for medicine specifically and the university as a whole ie the atmosphere) that I may have not thought of.

Will the course be harder in one university compared to the other? Will there be a decreased chance of being asked to leave the course if you don’t make a grade in one university compared to the other?

I have heard lots of horror stories of being asked to leave the course if you fail even one exam.

For reference, these are the pros and cons I have already listed: (I wouldn’t mind more info though)

Location
Competition of finding accommodation
Friendliness and ‘approachness’ Of staff
Price of accommodation
UoB is more ‘established’

Reply 1

Uob is a Russel group and has a higher status but I don't think that matters for medicine. Aston has just started medicine though so idk how good the teaching will be.
However, Aston gives all medicine students an ipad when they start.
For medicine, more than any other subject, there really is no concept of "good" vs "bad" medical schools. The requirements medical schools need to meet to achieve accreditation from the GMC are so high that all medical schools will be "good", at worst. Also no matter which medical school you do your medical degree at, you'll get a foundation post somewhere at the end providing you don't fail. My impression is, however, that generally fail out rates for medicine are extremely low.

The main barrier to entry for medicine is admissions to the degree in the first place; medical schools in the UK don't follow the model that some European medical schools do where they accept most people but know only a handful will pass the degree in the end. In the UK medical schools take the people they think are most likely to get through medical school and ultimately enter the profession - and given how much it costs the NHS to educate a medical student, it wouldn't make sense financially for them to take people they know aren't going to make it. Medicine is not a course that makes money for the NHS or the university, at least in the short to medium term - the NHS gets it's moneys worth over the long term from the person completing the course and serving their career out in the NHS.

might be able to advise a bit more.

Reply 3

Original post by artful_lounger
For medicine, more than any other subject, there really is no concept of "good" vs "bad" medical schools. The requirements medical schools need to meet to achieve accreditation from the GMC are so high that all medical schools will be "good", at worst. Also no matter which medical school you do your medical degree at, you'll get a foundation post somewhere at the end providing you don't fail. My impression is, however, that generally fail out rates for medicine are extremely low.

The main barrier to entry for medicine is admissions to the degree in the first place; medical schools in the UK don't follow the model that some European medical schools do where they accept most people but know only a handful will pass the degree in the end. In the UK medical schools take the people they think are most likely to get through medical school and ultimately enter the profession - and given how much it costs the NHS to educate a medical student, it wouldn't make sense financially for them to take people they know aren't going to make it. Medicine is not a course that makes money for the NHS or the university, at least in the short to medium term - the NHS gets it's moneys worth over the long term from the person completing the course and serving their career out in the NHS.

@ecolier might be able to advise a bit more.


Thank you so much for your reply!
I was really worried about being forced to drop out but this has put my mind at ease and I’m sure more students will see this and feel the same.

I know all medical schools are ‘good’ and I do like both of the universities for different reasons but I never thought I would have more than one offer so I didn’t anticipate how I would decide.

Reply 4

Original post by Flyehigh
Uob is a Russel group and has a higher status but I don't think that matters for medicine. Aston has just started medicine though so idk how good the teaching will be.
However, Aston gives all medicine students an ipad when they start.

I have visited Aston and I love their staff, they are very nice and made sure I was comfortable on the interview day so I do trust their teaching will be at a high standard too
Original post by meena7861234
Thank you so much for your reply!
I was really worried about being forced to drop out but this has put my mind at ease and I’m sure more students will see this and feel the same.

I know all medical schools are ‘good’ and I do like both of the universities for different reasons but I never thought I would have more than one offer so I didn’t anticipate how I would decide.


I'd suggest focusing on aspects of how the course is taught (e.g. PBL, traditional lecture format, some combination of those or something else), location (it's a long degree to study somewhere you hate living in) as well as location(s) of placements, what amenities the university offers, any particular support they offer medical students with respect to e.g. accommodation on placements in clinical years etc, availability (or requirement of) an intercalated year may also be of relevance to you (depending whether you would want to do one or not).

Reply 6

Original post by meena7861234
I have offers for both UoB and Aston and I am just wondering if anyone has any pros or cons for each university (for medicine specifically and the university as a whole ie the atmosphere) that I may have not thought of.

Will the course be harder in one university compared to the other? Will there be a decreased chance of being asked to leave the course if you don’t make a grade in one university compared to the other?

I have heard lots of horror stories of being asked to leave the course if you fail even one exam.

For reference, these are the pros and cons I have already listed: (I wouldn’t mind more info though)

Location
Competition of finding accommodation
Friendliness and ‘approachness’ Of staff
Price of accommodation
UoB is more ‘established’

I attend UoB and love it here! I agree with the other commenters that there is no good or bad medical school, and you will succeed well at both.

Personally, I would recommend UoB :wink: but I’m biased haha! The MedSoc at UoB is huge, with a whole heap of societies and sports and academic groups to join. I really do think that makes for a way better uni experience.

Birmingham clinical placements are also all commutable, bar one, so most students never have to stay out of town for placement. I don’t know which hospitals Aston use for clinical placement - I would recommend checking this out!

Birmingham campus is lovely, very peaceful and scenic and a really community feel in Selly Oak. You won’t struggle to find accommodation - not sure about price compared to Aston. I guess it depends if you want to be in the city or not.

Last thing to consider is the year group size. Birmingham has a huge year size for Medicine, I’m in fourth year and still don’t know everyone! However, I’ve always felt supported and the Student Services team in the med school are brilliant.

Reply 7

I have the exact same problem too! I like UoB but i couldn’t really see myself there. But aston is so friendly and dedicated it felt like they were so much more enthusiastic. Let me know if you want to talk about it! :smile:

Reply 8

Original post by abrien
I have the exact same problem too! I like UoB but i couldn’t really see myself there. But aston is so friendly and dedicated it felt like they were so much more enthusiastic. Let me know if you want to talk about it! :smile:

I am leaning towards Aston maybe, I am used to small schools there’s only 30 of us in our year. But, maybe I need to get out my comfort zone because as doctors we won’t be fully comfortable? Especially when training. I’m not quite sure what to do but I am going to use the extended time to use!! I don’t want to over think the decision though I might pray for some guidance (I am very spiritual/religious) or research further on how each uni accommodates their students as I am used to feeling supported. If you want to speak more you can pm me or just ask here I don’t mind!!

Reply 9

Update- I firmed aston last week :smile:

Reply 10

How have you found Aston so far!!

Reply 11

Original post by meena7861234
Update- I firmed aston last week :smile:


Hi
How is Aston experience so far. What would be your advice to students joining Aston medicine in 2024. Could you please provide an overview for prospective students to take note?
Thanks.

Reply 12

Original post by meena7861234
Update- I firmed aston last week :smile:

How're you finding Aston, studies, academic load, student living, teaching methodologies? Would appreciate your update. Thank you

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