Is Germany a shining beacon of excellence we should all aspire to?

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I mean over the years, they seem to have got praise for doing the right thing nearly all the time. Are they the definition of a utopia country that gets everything right 99% of the time?
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I mean over the years, they seem to have got praise for doing the right thing nearly all the time. Are they the definition of a utopia country that gets everything right 99% of the time?
Was the other 1% starting two world wars and losing both of them?
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I am not an expert on Germany or its culture but I know a few people who are German through university and they are seriously organised. They really do not like being unprepared for anything - I really admire it.
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Was the other 1% starting two world wars and losing both of them?
Probably
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I am not an expert on Germany or its culture but I know a few people who are German through university and they are seriously organised. They really do not like being unprepared for anything - I really admire it.
So that explains my desires for as many things as possible to be perfect, my dad's grandma was German. :lol:
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I mean over the years, they seem to have got praise for doing the right thing nearly all the time. Are they the definition of a utopia country that gets everything right 99% of the time?
Japan is also notorious for excellent structure and execution.
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Japan is also notorious for excellent structure and execution.
Very much so.
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I mean over the years, they seem to have got praise for doing the right thing nearly all the time. Are they the definition of a utopia country that gets everything right 99% of the time?
After two world wars and the Cold War, Germany’s culture and society began to progress at at incredible rate. It was an incredibly liberal society in all aspects. Visiting Berlin was an amazing experience, seeing the difference in East and West Berlin. 30 years later you could still see the difference in the development of the two sides
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(Original post by Wired_1800)
Japan is also notorious for excellent structure and execution.
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Was the other 1% starting two world wars and losing both of them?
Essentially the major powers that lost the Second World War bounced back even better than the West.
It’s easier to lose a war and bounce back than win a war.
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No.
High taxation, high public spending, losing two world wars, lax border control, accepting foreign nationals into their military, granting such foreign nationals citizenship by naturalisation instead of deporting after serving imprisonment sentences for high profile serious crimes committed on german soil. :eek:
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Essentially the major powers that lost the Second World War bounced back even better than the West.
It’s easier to lose a war and bounce back than win a war.
I think it is the poison of complacency.
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No.
High taxation, high public spending, losing two world wars, lax border control, accepting foreign nationals into their military, granting such foreign nationals citizenship by naturalisation instead of deporting after serving imprisonment sentences for high profile serious crimes committed on german soil. :eek:
Yet, they are performing better than us with our fantastic system and tight borders.
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What happened in the twentieth century? The answer is no.
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(Original post by Cell_D)
I am not an expert on Germany or its culture but I know a few people who are German through university and they are seriously organised. They really do not like being unprepared for anything - I really admire it.
Didnt work for them in Barbarossa.
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(Original post by Greywolftwo)
Essentially the major powers that lost the Second World War bounced back even better than the West.
It’s easier to lose a war and bounce back than win a war.
Oversimplification and fails to take into account Germany was reconstructed by the allies. America had lots of money and the UK paid by bankrupting itself. They should have left them to it.
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Japan is also notorious for excellent structure and execution.
Yep Pearl Harbour went well for them...
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Oversimplification and fails to take into account Germany was reconstructed by the allies. America had lots of money and the UK paid by bankrupting itself. They should have left them to it.
Oh definitely, Western Germany couldn’t have survived without Bizonia and the various aid plans given to them by the Americans. If they’d left them to it they wouldn’t be in the position they are now, very far behind probably
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- Start a war
- Kill millions
- Lose the war
- Have the country split in two for decades
- Get a **** tone of American economic aid
- And boom you have the modern "utopian" German state
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