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What are some philosophers with an interesting philosophical viewpoint on the idea of poverty? One that comes to my mind is Marx. I'm just wondering if anyone can recommend any other ones?
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What about some 18th and 19th-century philosophers?
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What about some 18th and 19th-century philosophers?
don't care enough about them to know
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don't care enough about them to know
Then list some of your Indian philosophy people
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Then list some of your Indian philosophy people
their polphil probably isn't the sort of polphil you're after. it's bound up with religion and duty
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Does Thomas Malthus count?
I also know William James did a bit on poverty but I haven't read into that at all so... not sure if he counts either.
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Does Thomas Malthus count?
To an extent- you could talk about how his population theory applies to current times and why that causes poverty
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their polphil probably isn't the sort of polphil you're after. it's bound up with religion and duty
Are there no good Buddhist stuff on poverty?
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Are there no good Buddhist stuff on poverty?
the Buddhist stuff I deal with was written by monks that chose to live in poverty, so yknow

There is a sort of Buddhist political phil broadly speaking but it is hard to separate it from the religion
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the Buddhist stuff I deal with was written by monks that chose to live in poverty, so yknow

There is a sort of Buddhist political phil broadly speaking but it is hard to separate it from the religion
What was their philosophy behind why they chose to live in poverty- I'm guessing something to do with enlightenment?
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What was their philosophy behind why they chose to live in poverty- I'm guessing something to do with enlightenment?
world renunciation and lack of ownership to facilitate lack of attachment to objects
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Are there no good Buddhist stuff on poverty?
I'm not sure, but I think daoism would be a great place to start... I think they prioritise reconciliation rather than fighting to get out of poverty. They were influential to Buddhism .
"The true man of old did not fight against poverty nor did he look for fulfilment through riches – for he had no grand plans. Therefore he never regretted any failure , nor exulted in success."
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I'm not sure, but I think daoism would be a great place to start... I think they prioritise reconciliation rather than fighting to get out of poverty. They were influential to Buddhism .
"The true man of old did not fight against poverty nor did he look for fulfilment through riches – for he had no grand plans. Therefore he never regretted any failure , nor exulted in success."
Buddhism in India predates Daoism in China by up to 600 years (or 200 on a conservative take), so it probably wasn't influential to Buddhism, it was influential to Chinese flavours of Buddhism, some of which are radically different to their parental lineage
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Buddhism in India predates Daoism in China by 600 years, so it wasn't influential to Buddhism, it was influential to Chinese flavours of Buddhism, some of which are radically different to their parental lineage
ah apologies. What I know of Buddhism is what I was taught - never thought to look into it deeper to be honest. Might have to when I start my course though... if lockdown ever ends haha.
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ah apologies. What I know of Buddhism is what I was taught - never thought to look into it deeper to be honest. Might have to when I start my course though... if lockdown ever ends haha.
This is why Chinese Buddhism is weird and wonderful in comparison to its Indian grandfather, same with Tibetan stuff and some Sri Lankan stuff. Massive mix of folkloric and native religions in with the 'new' Buddhism coming in. So influential on religional variants of Buddhism for sure, but Buddhism per se existed as a post-Vedic cult all on its own, regardless of the influence of Dao, Bon etc

Aye, lockdown is a bit grim now. Can't last forever!
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