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What makes organ scholars so special?

They can apply for both cambridge and oxford for an undergraduate degree, while the rest of us has to suffer! Yes, even if we were allowed to apply for both we would have to make a descision in which uni we want to go, but I'm saying organ scholars have double the chances of going to the most elite unis in britain, whislt we have less of a chance than they do. It's so unfair! sorr, for going on a bit, but I don't know why people that can play an oversized instrument have the privledge in applying for oxbridge.

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Reply 1
Tradition.
Stupid tradition.
Stupid smart organists.
Damn, so that's where I went wrong... I should have learnt to play the Organ! :rolleyes:
Reply 3
What makes organ scholars so special is that they're in rather short supply.
i hate organ scholars
Reply 5
Boolean Julian
i hate organ scholars


Why?
Reply 6
You've raised some good points.

Another slightly worrying thing is that 75% of paedophiles are known to play the organ. Not necessarily very well, but they do play. The other 25% play the accordion.
Boolean Julian
i hate organ scholars


I hate people who don't capitalise or punctuate appropriately.
There are very few opportunities for young organists to play regularly within the anglican choral tradition at a very high level. Good organists are in very short supply and it is important that we give talented young people on this instrument as much opportunity to get to play it at a high level as possible. The number of people who take advantage of this 'loophole' (in a, quite frankly, stupid admissions rule anyway) are insignificantly small. One has to counter-balance the fact that these individuals can apply to both oxford and cambridge with the fact that there are only a few scholarships available and that subject restrictions do apply (and, from the experience of my friends it makes life more difficult if one is not intending to study music even though this is not a requirement) and of course that the auditions process is very difficult indeed and very stressful (as someone who applied for a choral scholarship at Oxford back in the day I can only summise that the organ scholarship auditions are many time more stressful than the, quite frankly, horrible experience I had).
Reply 9
Aconite
You've raised some good points.

Another slightly worrying thing is that 75% of paedophiles are known to play the organ. Not necessarily very well, but they do play. The other 25% play the accordion.


So your job on TSR is to make lame attemps of being funny?
im so academic
I'm saying organ scholars have double the chances of going to the most elite unis in britain,


"I saw this really fit girl today- my cunning plan is that if I ask her out twice rather than once then there's double the chance she'll go out with me!".

Erm...

If Oxbridge randomly assigned their places to applicants rather than choosing them then yeah, two applications equals double the chance of getting in (like buying two lottery tickets = double the chance). Since Oxbridge choose who they want though, surely the two Unis will probably offer places to mostly the same candidates- i.e. chances are, an applicant will have either two offers or none at all.
Reply 11
[QUOTE='[Ali]']So your job on TSR is to make lame attemps of being funny?

Yes. I'm paid handsomely for it.
Audrey Hepburn
I hate people who don't capitalise or punctuate appropriately.


i'll do what i want.

also, isn't that a bit extreme, to hate someone just because of their punctuation?
Reply 13
Can somebody explain this a bit better to me please.

What exactly is an organ scholar, somebody who has a scholarship at their school / college or somebody who gets one at uni? If they will get one at Ox / Cam, how will they know and be able to apply for both? Or is it that all applicants of an organ scholarship can apply to both, but unless it’s granted, they can’t apply to both? Confusing.

Also, can they study anything, like law or medicine or does it have to be music?

Thanks.
Boolean Julian
i'll do what i want.

also, isn't that a bit extreme, to hate someone just because of their punctuation?


People sometimes hate others for their race, class or religion, and you're complaining about me?
Reply 15
DJkG.1
Can somebody explain this a bit better to me please


An organ scholar is somebody who's applying for a scholarship at Oxford and/or Cambridge. Organ scholars generally lead the chapel choir in addition to playing the organ.

All applicants for organ scholarships can apply to both Oxford and Cambridge. While it is usual for organ scholars to apply to study music, I don't imagine it would be impossible to apply for an organ scholarship and to study maths, though it would put you at a disadvantage.

Boolean Julian
isn't that a bit extreme, to hate someone just because of their punctuation?


Isn't that a bit extreme, to hate someone just because of their choice of musical instrument?
BJack
An organ scholar is somebody who's applying for a scholarship at Oxford and/or Cambridge. Organ scholars generally lead the chapel choir in addition to playing the organ.

All applicants for organ scholarships can apply to both Oxford and Cambridge. While it is usual for organ scholars to apply to study music, I don't imagine it would be impossible to apply for an organ scholarship and to study maths, though it would put you at a disadvantage.



Isn't that a bit extreme, to hate someone just because of their choice of musical instrument?


i'll do what i want.

Anyway, it was a hyperbole.
Audrey Hepburn
People sometimes hate others for their race, class or religion, and you're complaining about me?


That's because you're talking to me. If you said you hate people who don't capitalise and I started talking about how awful racism is it would be a bit of a non-sequiteur.
BJack
Isn't that a bit extreme, to hate someone just because of their choice of musical instrument?


Damn, I was debating whether or not I should use that as my comeback! In retrospect it sounds better too. Meh well, so long as someone says it.
Reply 19
BJack
An organ scholar is somebody who's applying for a scholarship at Oxford and/or Cambridge. Organ scholars generally lead the chapel choir in addition to playing the organ.

All applicants for organ scholarships can apply to both Oxford and Cambridge. While it is usual for organ scholars to apply to study music, I don't imagine it would be impossible to apply for an organ scholarship and to study maths, though it would put you at a disadvantage.



Ah right, thanks for the explanation.

But I guess Oxbridge will only consider their application if they have granted them an organ scholarship should they join the uni.

Otherwise anyone could apply to both unis with an organ scholarship application, not get the scholarship and still have a chance at the seat to study maths or whatever else? :biggrin:

But I guess the very clever people at Oxbridge have already thought of this cunning plan! :p: