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What makes organ scholars so special?

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Reply 20

Boolean Julian
That's because you're talking to me. If you said you hate people who don't capitalise and I started talking about how awful racism is it would be a bit of a non-sequiteur.


You have started talking properly, I no longer have an issue with you.

Reply 21

Audrey Hepburn
Damn, I was debating whether or not I should use that as my comeback! In retrospect it sounds better too. Meh well, so long as someone says it.

I have to say, yours was pretty weak.

Reply 22

Audrey Hepburn
You have started talking properly, I no longer have an issue with you.


i'll talk how i want.

Reply 23

As has been said, they're in short supply. And so you know OP, a girl from my old school got an offer for Music at Cambridge this year, and she didn't also apply to Oxford - don't make out like there is some mass conspiracy here that greatly upsets your chances. I can promise you now, that your own chances of getting an offer are exactly the same as if you were allowed to apply ten times to each.

Reply 24

If they couldn't apply to both, all prospective organ scholars would just apply to Cambridge (cos it's much better), and then Oxford would be deprived!
This whole system is just to make it fair to Oxford.

Reply 25

Also, if you were vaguely proficient at the piano, and spent a few weeks learning a piece on the organ, and applied for the scholarship, surely they wouldn't be able to punish you for wasting their time??
You could just claim to be ignorant of the standard required, and then there you go, an Oxford AND Cambridge application.
Wish I'd thought of that, but then I guess I wouldn't have been able to go for the choral scholarship then. Ahh well.

Reply 26

Rubberband
As has been said, they're in short supply. And so you know OP, a girl from my old school got an offer for Music at Cambridge this year, and she didn't also apply to Oxford - don't make out like there is some mass conspiracy here that greatly upsets your chances. I can promise you now, that your own chances of getting an offer are exactly the same as if you were allowed to apply ten times to each.

No. Don't believe that the admissions system is infallible. However, I accept that the advantage given to organ scholars is negligible.

Reply 27

jismith1989
No. Don't believe that the admissions system is infallible. However, I accept that the advantage given to organ scholars is negligible.


Ah, no, I don't believe that - I was speaking specifically in reference to im so academic's particular chances here.

Reply 28

TomQMU
Tradition.
Stupid tradition.
Stupid smart organists.


Tradition! What kind of flipping tradition is this?

Seriously, I'm just thankful that organ scholars can't get in to Oxbridge if they get AAB, even if they can play the bloody contrapation!

I would be so annoyed if an organ scholar who applied for both unis and was predicted AAB got offers for both of them.

Tradition! Ha! What next? A tradition that you can apply for two or more Oxbridge undergraduate courses if you can assemble an IKEA table!

Reply 29

Rubberband
Ah, no, I don't believe that - I was speaking specifically in reference to im so academic's particular chances here.

Ah, so you're assuming that he's going to be accepted or rejected?

Reply 30

im so academic
Seriously, I'm just thankful that organ scholars can't get in to Oxbridge if they get AAB, even if they can play the bloody contrapation!

I would be so annoyed if an organ scholar who applied for both unis and was predicted AAB got offers for both of them.


lol.

Tradition! Ha! What next? A tradition that you can apply for two or more Oxbridge undergraduate courses if you can assemble an IKEA table!


Except there is no IKEA tradition at Oxford or Cambridge. This is a patently false analogy.

jismith1989
Ah, so you're assuming that he's going to be accepted or rejected?


Well ultimately those are the two possibilities. :s-smilie:

quakeeem
Also, if you were vaguely proficient at the piano, and spent a few weeks learning a piece on the organ, and applied for the scholarship, surely they wouldn't be able to punish you for wasting their time??


The infosheet for potential organ scholars says: As a rule of thumb a candidate for any organ scholarship ought to have reached a standard roughly equivalent to Grade VIII in organ playing, and in the case of the choral foundations should be beyond this and approaching the standard of a diploma.

A "vaguely proficient" pianist would take more than a few weeks to reach that standard.

Reply 31

jismith1989
Ah, so you're assuming that he's going to be accepted or rejected?


Guess which.

Reply 32

Aconite
You've raised some good points.

Another slightly worrying thing is that 75% of paedophiles are known to play the organ. Not necessarily very well, but they do play. The other 25% play the accordion.


:rofl: I don't know why like.

On a serious note I'd never heard of that! :eek:
I used to take the **** out of the organs at the back of room when I was getting music lessons and the people who played them. I know who's laughing now...
Then again, why am I bothered, I'm not even going to apply now. =|
Strange tradition though. :yep:

Reply 33

im so academic
Seriously, I'm just thankful that organ scholars can't get in to Oxbridge if they get AAB, even if they can play the bloody contrapation!


Well, unless they apply to History at St Hugh's, Oxford...then they can get in with BBB. Or an EE offer from Cambridge.

Reply 34

Hello. I can play a few tunes on organ. Do you still need good grades to be organ scaller or can I get in just through playing organ so I can study English or Dairy Herd Management? :smile:

Or do they offer Deer Herd Management at Magdalen? :smile:

Reply 35

jismith1989
Ah, so you're assuming that he's going to be accepted or rejected?


Oh, yes. Following the OP's thread starting career from the first, I've never been so sure of the ability of one person in my life. I can only hope that (s)he manages to put it across clearly in the interview.

Reply 36

im so academic
They can apply for both cambridge and oxford for an undergraduate degree, while the rest of us has to suffer! Yes, even if we were allowed to apply for both we would have to make a descision in which uni we want to go, but I'm saying organ scholars have double the chances of going to the most elite unis in britain, whislt we have less of a chance than they do. It's so unfair! sorr, for going on a bit, but I don't know why people that can play an oversized instrument have the privledge in applying for oxbridge.


Well if you get rejected by one, you're more than likely to be rejected by the other, so it doesn't really give you that much of an advantage.

If you're good enough to get into Oxbridge, you'll get in regardless of whether you play the organ or not.

Reply 37

rkd
Guess which.

:p: Well, anyone who spends so much time discussing the minutiae of Oxbridge on TSR must, one would think, have a decent chance (assuming his grades and any admissions test results hit the mark)...

Reply 38

Rubberband
Oh, yes. Following the OP's thread starting career from the first, I've never been so sure of the ability of one person in my life. I can only hope that (s)he manages to put it across clearly in the interview.


He's so academic, he'll be fine.

Reply 39

Rubberband
Oh, yes. Following the OP's thread starting career from the first, I've never been so sure of the ability of one person in my life. I can only hope that (s)he manages to put it across clearly in the interview.

That's quite some certainty; especially considering that, as I'm sure you know, only around, on average, a quarter of applicants are accepted. And yes, that of course is where the potential problems lie: performing to one's optimum in the interview.

Though I just have a chip, fracture or break, on my shoulder as my grades weren't good enough for Oxbridge (AABa). I would like, if I do well enough in my initial degree, to do a Law degree there, however.

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