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Government's two week delay is now over, and we know what was happening before it; a surge in conditional to unconditional offer conversions.

I mean with this CAG business, I doubt many students are going to meet entry requirements for their courses (think about it, A*A*A*, that's bloody impossible), and when you take into account that they're not getting as many international students as they usually do, what kind of percentage are you guys thinking? They clearly need the students to make ends meet.

I am only asking this for speculation, and am not trying to create some kind of argument. During times like this, I kinda just want to hear opinions and what people think.
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My firm uni sent an email the other day saying they wouldn't be giving out unconditional offers, but that they would be more flexible on results day for accepting people. That being said I think other certain unis will definitely be converting their offers. So I think it will vary from uni to uni based on the popularity of the course and prominence of the uni itself. But I think overall the majority won't change their offers
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Most Uni's will just keep doing what they have been doing, (IE only giving unconditionals to people with achieved grades), and will sort the difference out on results day.
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https://www.tes.com/news/coronavirus...itional-offers
This says otherwise... and suggests a two week delay until May 4th
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https://www.tes.com/news/coronavirus...itional-offers
This says otherwise... and suggests a two week delay until May 4th
Oh my, well this article really does change everything. Thank you for sharing this, I will definitely be looking further into this.

Everyone, still carry on updating this forum if possible, any news from individual universities, colleges, etc. I feel this overall topic is very important to all students right now in terms of their application.
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(Original post by styleman)
https://www.tes.com/news/coronavirus...itional-offers
This says otherwise... and suggests a two week delay until May 4th
It is highly likely that most university's will end accepting the majority of students with their A level results unless these are far lower than their offers. The government seem desperate to avoid unconditional offers but once the deadline for making decisions is passed it wouldn't surprise me if conditionals became unconditionals in many places. The government has already showed they are not to be trusted over the results date scenario.
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It is highly likely that most university's will end accepting the majority of students with their A level results unless these are far lower than their offers. The government seem desperate to avoid unconditional offers but once the deadline for making decisions is passed it wouldn't surprise me if conditionals became unconditionals in many places. The government has already showed they are not to be trusted over the results date scenario.
Interesting input, but could I ask more about one of your points?

You mention the government shouldn't be trusted because of the results day scenario. Could you elaborate? I did hear about results day possibly being towards to end of July, before it was moved forward again to August 13th. Is there anything you may have understood from this decision?

Please do share.
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Do you think that even if you’ve made decisions on UCAS your firm / insurance is likely to change it from unconditional to conditional?
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Do you think that even if you’ve made decisions on UCAS your firm / insurance is likely to change it from unconditional to conditional?
This is something I would like information on as well! Please make a post on this forum if you have any information
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Do you think that even if you’ve made decisions on UCAS your firm / insurance is likely to change it from unconditional to conditional?
they can't bait and switch like this, don't worry. (instead - unconditional offers are just bait lol)
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they can't bait and switch like this, don't worry. (instead - unconditional offers are just bait lol)
How about the other way round? Conditional to unconditional, after firming / insurance?
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How about the other way round? Conditional to unconditional, after firming / insurance?
yeah this can happen. If your firm offer becomes unconditional your insurance offer will be automatically declined, and you'll be committed to going there unless you release to clearing. (though you do get a cooldown period to change your mind, if they make it unconditional before this expires)

whether a uni gives you an unconditional shouldn't really be a deciding factor.
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This was the universities minister's reply on here on 10 April
Ofqual and the exam boards are working hard to provide results as quickly as they can. They are aiming to get them out a little earlier than the usual timeframe if possible, so students can have certainty as quickly as possible. We will confirm this as soon as we can. Thanks, Michelle

Her boss Gavin Williamson stated this a few days later and also had previously suggested results day would be in July.

After the cancellation of A-level and AS-level exams, that date was thrown into confusion. Soon after exams were cancelled, the government's education secretary Gavin Williamson said it was hoped that results would be out by the end of July.
In a later announcement on how students' exam grades would be decided, the exam regulator Ofqual said results would be released no later than the original date of 13 August.
But Williamson has now provided official confirmation of the A-level and AS-level results day, in a comment piece published by the i newspaper.
"GCSE students will get their results on Thursday 20 August, while those who are awaiting A-level results will get theirs the previous Thursday, the 13th," said Williamson.
"These dates are the same as those published at the start of this academic year, and I hope will provide further clarity for all those young people receiving results in the summer."
Williamson's comments confirm that, despite the cancellation of exams, A-level results day is on Thursday 13 August 2020.
It is not yet known whether students will be able to go to their schools and colleges to collect their results in person, or whether another system will be put in place to issue results.


This was less than a week later.

Michelle Donolan also claimed universities would be flexible about students taking exams being accepted for 2020/1 entry. UCL has already said students sitting exams in the Autumn wont be accepted for 2020 entry and given she stated results wont be out until near Christmas it will be too late for most universities as seminar 1 will nearly be completed by then.

I certainly dont trust anything they say.
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This was the universities minister's reply on here on 10 April
Ofqual and the exam boards are working hard to provide results as quickly as they can. They are aiming to get them out a little earlier than the usual timeframe if possible, so students can have certainty as quickly as possible. We will confirm this as soon as we can. Thanks, Michelle

Her boss Gavin Williamson stated this a few days later and also had previously suggested results day would be in July.

After the cancellation of A-level and AS-level exams, that date was thrown into confusion. Soon after exams were cancelled, the government's education secretary Gavin Williamson said it was hoped that results would be out by the end of July.
In a later announcement on how students' exam grades would be decided, the exam regulator Ofqual said results would be released no later than the original date of 13 August.
But Williamson has now provided official confirmation of the A-level and AS-level results day, in a comment piece published by the i newspaper.
"GCSE students will get their results on Thursday 20 August, while those who are awaiting A-level results will get theirs the previous Thursday, the 13th," said Williamson.
"These dates are the same as those published at the start of this academic year, and I hope will provide further clarity for all those young people receiving results in the summer."
Williamson's comments confirm that, despite the cancellation of exams, A-level results day is on Thursday 13 August 2020.
It is not yet known whether students will be able to go to their schools and colleges to collect their results in person, or whether another system will be put in place to issue results.


This was less than a week later.

Michelle Donolan also claimed universities would be flexible about students taking exams being accepted for 2020/1 entry. UCL has already said students sitting exams in the Autumn wont be accepted for 2020 entry and given she stated results wont be out until near Christmas it will be too late for most universities as seminar 1 will nearly be completed by then.

I certainly dont trust anything they say.
This is... horrible.

I didn't know about what UCL had said, and this information has me incredibly concerned about this year's applications... with the information you've provided, I already have a few universities in mind that will follow UCL's footsteps. This is incredibly unfortunate, but I have to now agree with you; what the government has said and what a university (and soon, universities) have said do not align with each other; the results for Autumn examinations are going to be too late- they are not to be trusted.

This places many students in a state of disarray should they not achieve their required conditions.

I have no words to all this.

How horrible. How terrible of the government to do this to their own students, to be so unforgiving during a crisis no one had control over.
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This is... horrible.

I didn't know about what UCL had said, and this information has me incredibly concerned about this year's applications... with the information you've provided, I already have a few universities in mind that will follow UCL's footsteps. This is incredibly unfortunate, but I have to now agree with you; what the government has said and what a university (and soon, universities) have said do not align with each other; the results for Autumn examinations are going to be too late- they are not to be trusted.

This places many students in a state of disarray should they not achieve their required conditions.

I have no words to all this.

How horrible. How terrible of the government to do this to their own students, to be so unforgiving during a crisis no one had control over.
I have not seen a single university say that they will be flexible to those doing the Autumn exams. Every single one so far has said they will have to start in 2021. This is definitely the government's fault. They need to stop saying stuff that they can't make sure will be true.
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This is... horrible.

I didn't know about what UCL had said, and this information has me incredibly concerned about this year's applications... with the information you've provided, I already have a few universities in mind that will follow UCL's footsteps. This is incredibly unfortunate, but I have to now agree with you; what the government has said and what a university (and soon, universities) have said do not align with each other; the results for Autumn examinations are going to be too late- they are not to be trusted.

This places many students in a state of disarray should they not achieve their required conditions.M

I have no words to all this.

How horrible. How terrible of the government to do this to their own students, to be so unforgiving during a crisis no one had control over.
Other than a few universities and select courses mainly in the medical field I suspect most students will get into their firm or insurance universities. Based on previous years most universities accepted students with dropped grades and they are likely to be more flexible this year so I dont think many will end up taking September/October exams. Most universities accepted 1 or 2 grade drops and I cannot see a huge disparity between teachers assessments and what students would have got in exams. That is not to say it would be the same as predicted grades which were totally unreliable anyway.
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Bumping this post.

It appears they have made it so unconditional conversions have been delayed by a further two weeks.

Any opinions or news people would like to add?
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Bumping this post.

It appears they have made it so unconditional conversions have been delayed by a further two weeks.

Any opinions or news people would like to add?
Making offers unconditional may encourage students to go to university this year as universities are expecting a lower intake. I think this ban is a bit stupid to be honest. Students would still have a choice.
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