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Reason why i said this is because i failed my a levels, like didnt just get e, there were U's too. However when i moved to canada and re did 12 grade again, i passed with 90+%, that's like A*. Now I got offers from top ranked universities i never thought i would get chance in my life time. This overall experience makes me wonder, how many students out there lost their chance to get into good unis because the education system has failed them? Is there such thing as bad students?
Different countries have different system, i wish students were given a choice to which system they can follow. All my friends are graduating when i am just going to start uni because of that one mistake. I wish someone sat down with me and showed me the system i would ace in. sorry if it doesnt make sense
Different countries have different system, i wish students were given a choice to which system they can follow. All my friends are graduating when i am just going to start uni because of that one mistake. I wish someone sat down with me and showed me the system i would ace in. sorry if it doesnt make sense
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Could you elaborate on what you mean by the education system has failed them, exactly how?
Yes of course there is such thing as bad students.
Yes of course there is such thing as bad students.
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(Original post by nanachan123)
Reason why i said this is because i failed my a levels, like didnt just get e, there were U's too. However when i moved to canada and re did 12 grade again, i passed with 90+%, that's like A*. Now I got offers from top ranked universities i never thought i would get chance in my life time. This overall experience makes me wonder, how many students out there lost their chance to get into good unis because the education system has failed them? Is there such thing as bad students?
Different countries have different system, i wish students were given a choice to which system they can follow. All my friends are graduating when i am just going to start uni because of that one mistake. I wish someone sat down with me and showed me the system i would ace in. sorry if it doesnt make sense
Reason why i said this is because i failed my a levels, like didnt just get e, there were U's too. However when i moved to canada and re did 12 grade again, i passed with 90+%, that's like A*. Now I got offers from top ranked universities i never thought i would get chance in my life time. This overall experience makes me wonder, how many students out there lost their chance to get into good unis because the education system has failed them? Is there such thing as bad students?
Different countries have different system, i wish students were given a choice to which system they can follow. All my friends are graduating when i am just going to start uni because of that one mistake. I wish someone sat down with me and showed me the system i would ace in. sorry if it doesnt make sense
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Could you elaborate on what you mean by the education system has failed them, exactly how?
Yes of course there is such thing as bad students.
Could you elaborate on what you mean by the education system has failed them, exactly how?
Yes of course there is such thing as bad students.
Regardless my friends passed and I didnt. Was I a bad student or was there simply a flaw in the system? I don't know, but i remember what helped me the most was knowing my class work mattered. It gave me constant motivation, like if i did well in one class test, i would aim to do well in the next class test too and by the time it was final, the topics would be engrained into my brain because i was genuinly interested in learning than worrying about finals.
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Why is it the education system failed you and theres no part for you failing yourself?
Why is it the education system failed you and theres no part for you failing yourself?
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(Original post by nanachan123)
Because i got good grades in one system and bad grades in other despite putting equal effort in both.
Because i got good grades in one system and bad grades in other despite putting equal effort in both.
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It means that the UK education system didn't work for you, or rather you didn't adapt to it. However, I think it's a fairer system because it means no student or group of students has an advantage due to teaching quality, (justified) absences, teacher preferences, and so on. The reason you got bad grades in the UK despite your effort is because you didn't focus your efforts on what mattered - revision. Whereas in Canada your effort distribution matched what was asked of you.
Responding to your statement; this isn't really possible because of the logistics of the government managing multiple distinct systems at the same time. I good compromise is what we have now - BTEC Level 3 puts more emphasis on coursework than A-levels.
Responding to your statement; this isn't really possible because of the logistics of the government managing multiple distinct systems at the same time. I good compromise is what we have now - BTEC Level 3 puts more emphasis on coursework than A-levels.
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(Original post by 999tigger)
It just means you found the Canadian system easy compared to the UK one.
It just means you found the Canadian system easy compared to the UK one.
(Original post by Daveological)
It means that the UK education system didn't work for you, or rather you didn't adapt to it. However, I think it's a fairer system because it means no student or group of students has an advantage due to teaching quality, (justified) absences, teacher preferences, and so on. The reason you got bad grades in the UK despite your effort is because you didn't focus your efforts on what mattered - revision. Whereas in Canada your effort distribution matched what was asked of you.
Responding to your statement; this isn't really possible because of the logistics of the government managing multiple distinct systems at the same time. I good compromise is what we have now - BTEC Level 3 puts more emphasis on coursework than A-levels.
It means that the UK education system didn't work for you, or rather you didn't adapt to it. However, I think it's a fairer system because it means no student or group of students has an advantage due to teaching quality, (justified) absences, teacher preferences, and so on. The reason you got bad grades in the UK despite your effort is because you didn't focus your efforts on what mattered - revision. Whereas in Canada your effort distribution matched what was asked of you.
Responding to your statement; this isn't really possible because of the logistics of the government managing multiple distinct systems at the same time. I good compromise is what we have now - BTEC Level 3 puts more emphasis on coursework than A-levels.
I agree canadian system has its own share of flaws too, but at least not everything depends on finals. I would have attended community college based on my a level grades if i didnt move. Because of luck, i had the chance to explore and redo 12th grade in another system. Now think about how many students are out there like me who has failed a levels? Or perhaps got low grades that doesnt meet the min requirement? Are they worthless for unis? No, they are capable of getting good grades in another system but because there is no guidance, they are stuck into believing that's the worth of their effort when in reality, its the system that didnt suit them.
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(Original post by nanachan123)
In case you havent read the title of this thread "Students should be given a choice to which education system they should follow" and uk system failed me, canadian system wasnt any easier, it was just more merciful in a sense? It suited me despite having the same syllabus.
I just wish there was some guidance before starting A levels. A counsellor who would sit down with you and find out which system would work best for you as each students have unique learning capabilities.
I agree canadian system has its own share of flaws too, but at least not everything depends on finals.
In case you havent read the title of this thread "Students should be given a choice to which education system they should follow" and uk system failed me, canadian system wasnt any easier, it was just more merciful in a sense? It suited me despite having the same syllabus.
I just wish there was some guidance before starting A levels. A counsellor who would sit down with you and find out which system would work best for you as each students have unique learning capabilities.
I agree canadian system has its own share of flaws too, but at least not everything depends on finals.
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(Original post by nanachan123)
In case you havent read the title of this thread "Students should be given a choice to which education system they should follow" and uk system failed me, canadian system wasnt any easier, it was just more merciful in a sense? It suited me despite having the same syllabus.
I just wish there was some guidance before starting A levels. A counsellor who would sit down with you and find out which system would work best for you as each students have unique learning capabilities.
I agree canadian system has its own share of flaws too, but at least not everything depends on finals.
In case you havent read the title of this thread "Students should be given a choice to which education system they should follow" and uk system failed me, canadian system wasnt any easier, it was just more merciful in a sense? It suited me despite having the same syllabus.
I just wish there was some guidance before starting A levels. A counsellor who would sit down with you and find out which system would work best for you as each students have unique learning capabilities.
I agree canadian system has its own share of flaws too, but at least not everything depends on finals.
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You'll find that many international school systems actually have a lower standard than A-levels, eg. an American high school diploma is not in itself acceptable for entry at many UK universities. (it is often regarded as equivalent to GCSEs with AP classes [university level in the US!] equivalent to A-levels) Similar looks to be the case with Canada - with university level (wrt Canada) courses required for a few universities I've checked, (certainly the ones that require A*s) at least in certain provinces.
Anyway, this is besides the point - for some subjects, exam is unfortunately the best alternative. While subjects like history and english could probably be made almost entirely coursework, it'd be extremely difficult to make science/maths almost entirely coursework based/continually assessed. It's a flawed system but there's not really a better way to do things in some cases.
Anyway, this is besides the point - for some subjects, exam is unfortunately the best alternative. While subjects like history and english could probably be made almost entirely coursework, it'd be extremely difficult to make science/maths almost entirely coursework based/continually assessed. It's a flawed system but there's not really a better way to do things in some cases.
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(Original post by 999tigger)
So a pupil could decide whether to emigrate to Canada or not?
So a pupil could decide whether to emigrate to Canada or not?
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(Original post by nanachan123)
Someone hasnt heard of online schools and it shows.
Someone hasnt heard of online schools and it shows.
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got to say I don't believe this is a reliable story. There is no way anyone who was doing pretty well at coursework and mock exams would get a U in an actual exam.
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(Original post by Daveological)
If you're talking about BTEC vs A-level I agree and more schools should give guidance on that. If you're talking about moving to Canada or the like, for pre-university education it's not practical for a vast majority of people.
If you're talking about BTEC vs A-level I agree and more schools should give guidance on that. If you're talking about moving to Canada or the like, for pre-university education it's not practical for a vast majority of people.
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(Original post by nanachan123)
Not all schools in UK follows the same pattern. There are day schools specialised in AP, IB and what not. Cheaper alternatives are online schools. International students don't need to travel to UK to give igcse or gce.
Not all schools in UK follows the same pattern. There are day schools specialised in AP, IB and what not. Cheaper alternatives are online schools. International students don't need to travel to UK to give igcse or gce.
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