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BSc vs. MSci Hons - What's the difference?
I've been looking at various chemistry courses and some are BSc and some are MSci Hons
I found this on wikipedia:
Undergraduate Master's Courses
[edit] With Dissertation
In the UK, many universities now have four-year undergraduate programmes mainly in the sciences or in engineering with a research project or Dissertation in the final year. The awards for these are named after the subject, so a course in mathematics would earn a Master in Mathematics degree, (abbreviated to MMath), or have a general title such as MSci (Master in Science at most universities but Master of Natural Sciences at Cambridge), MBiomed, MBiochem, MChem, MComp, MPharm, MEng, MMath, MPhys, MML, MDes, etc.
In content the first two years they are generally identical to those of the equivalent Bachelor's degree while the third and fourth years are a combination of higher-level taught courses and a research project.
An example of an undergraduate master's degree in the professions in the United Kingdom is Pharmacy. In order to become a pharmacist, the undergraduate MPharm must be completed, followed by one year of pre-registration experience. A similar situation exists as regards Engineering.
[edit] Without Dissertation
The Master of Arts (MA) is awarded by the universities of Oxford, Cambridge and Trinity College, Dublin —without further examination— to those entitled to the degree of Bachelor of Arts. This is a different program than those above.
The ancient universities of Scotland (St Andrews, Glasgow, Aberdeen, Edinburgh) and Dundee award a Master of Arts (MA) as their normal undergraduate degree after four years of study in Arts, Humanities or Social Sciences.
What i don't get is the benefits of this? Is it a shorter duration? Financially cheaper?
Also.. if you do a MSci do you have a bachelors and a masters degree? so when you apply for a job you say you have both or something?
[edit] Postgraduate Master's degrees
Postgraduate Master's degrees in the United Kingdom can either be taught degrees involving lectures, examination and a short dissertation, or research degrees (though the latter have largely been replaced by MPhil and MRes programmes, see below). Taught Master's programmes involve 1 or 2 years of full-time study. The programmes are often very intensive and demanding, and concentrate on one very specialised area of knowledge. Some universities also offer a Master's by Learning Contract scheme, where a candidate can specify his or her own learning objectives; these are submitted to supervising academics for approval, and are assessed by means of written reports, practical demonstrations and presentations.
I found this on wikipedia:
Undergraduate Master's Courses
[edit] With Dissertation
In the UK, many universities now have four-year undergraduate programmes mainly in the sciences or in engineering with a research project or Dissertation in the final year. The awards for these are named after the subject, so a course in mathematics would earn a Master in Mathematics degree, (abbreviated to MMath), or have a general title such as MSci (Master in Science at most universities but Master of Natural Sciences at Cambridge), MBiomed, MBiochem, MChem, MComp, MPharm, MEng, MMath, MPhys, MML, MDes, etc.
In content the first two years they are generally identical to those of the equivalent Bachelor's degree while the third and fourth years are a combination of higher-level taught courses and a research project.
An example of an undergraduate master's degree in the professions in the United Kingdom is Pharmacy. In order to become a pharmacist, the undergraduate MPharm must be completed, followed by one year of pre-registration experience. A similar situation exists as regards Engineering.
[edit] Without Dissertation
The Master of Arts (MA) is awarded by the universities of Oxford, Cambridge and Trinity College, Dublin —without further examination— to those entitled to the degree of Bachelor of Arts. This is a different program than those above.
The ancient universities of Scotland (St Andrews, Glasgow, Aberdeen, Edinburgh) and Dundee award a Master of Arts (MA) as their normal undergraduate degree after four years of study in Arts, Humanities or Social Sciences.
What i don't get is the benefits of this? Is it a shorter duration? Financially cheaper?
Also.. if you do a MSci do you have a bachelors and a masters degree? so when you apply for a job you say you have both or something?
[edit] Postgraduate Master's degrees
Postgraduate Master's degrees in the United Kingdom can either be taught degrees involving lectures, examination and a short dissertation, or research degrees (though the latter have largely been replaced by MPhil and MRes programmes, see below). Taught Master's programmes involve 1 or 2 years of full-time study. The programmes are often very intensive and demanding, and concentrate on one very specialised area of knowledge. Some universities also offer a Master's by Learning Contract scheme, where a candidate can specify his or her own learning objectives; these are submitted to supervising academics for approval, and are assessed by means of written reports, practical demonstrations and presentations.
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Reply 1
I'm no expert, and definitely not on chemistry courses, but I'd assume that the Msci is an undergraduate masters.. Eg. you do 4 years as opposed to 3..
Reply 2
That's what I thought.
Reply 3
The MSci is an undergraduate masters, taken over four years, and may be important if you wish to follow a research career.
Reply 5
It is a taught masters degree, one level over a bachelors degree, and one below a doctorate.
Reply 6
Good bloke
It is a taught masters degree, one level over a bachelors degree, and one below a doctorate.
If you do a MSci in Biology, can you still do a separate Masters in a specialism of Biology?
And is it better to do a separate Masters or do an integrated Masters (i.e. MSci)?
These questions are for anyone...
EierVonSatan
Since you asked nicely 
Firstly the MSci is an undergraduate degree and so is done on an undergraduate timetable, the MSc is postgraduate course that covers an entire years worth of work. The grade you get for the MSci is a combination of all 'bachelor' and 'masters' years so the grade doesn't reflect your achievement in your final ('masters') year quite as much as a MSc does.
Firstly the MSci is an undergraduate degree and so is done on an undergraduate timetable, the MSc is postgraduate course that covers an entire years worth of work. The grade you get for the MSci is a combination of all 'bachelor' and 'masters' years so the grade doesn't reflect your achievement in your final ('masters') year quite as much as a MSc does.I understand.
Thanks for your detailed explanation! 
Reply 12
There is an extra year in an MSci, where you study your chosen subject in more depth, and recieve a more respected degree accordingly.
Thats the simplest way i can put it!
Thats the simplest way i can put it!
Vjyrik
What would be the benefits of going for a 4-year MSci (Hons) degree instead of going for a 3-year BSc (Hons) degree followed by 1-year MSc?
Financially. Because it's technically an undergraduate degree, you continue to receive your student loan for your fourth year, rather than having to fund it yourself.
Reply 16
what? u cant get a MSc funded???
A BSc is a Bachelors degree. A MSci is an undergraduate Masters degree, meaning in a sense it's equivalent to a MSc (a postgraduate Masters degree) though you're guaranteed government funding.
Personally I would always opt for the MSci as you can change in your second year as to whether or not you want to continue with the MSci or transfer to the BSc.
Funding for a MSc (postgraduate Masters) is difficult to get and must be sought out through research councils (though your MSc must then be linked to a PhD, forcing you to do a PhD; or at least this is the case with the ESRC).
Personally I would always opt for the MSci as you can change in your second year as to whether or not you want to continue with the MSci or transfer to the BSc.
Funding for a MSc (postgraduate Masters) is difficult to get and must be sought out through research councils (though your MSc must then be linked to a PhD, forcing you to do a PhD; or at least this is the case with the ESRC).
Reply 18
.ACS.
A BSc is a Bachelors degree. A MSci is an undergraduate Masters degree, meaning in a sense it's equivalent to a MSc (a postgraduate Masters degree) though you're guaranteed government funding.
Personally I would always opt for the MSci as you can change in your second year as to whether or not you want to continue with the MSci or transfer to the BSc.
Funding for a MSc (postgraduate Masters) is difficult to get and must be sought out through research councils (though your MSc must then be linked to a PhD, forcing you to do a PhD; or at least this is the case with the ESRC).
Personally I would always opt for the MSci as you can change in your second year as to whether or not you want to continue with the MSci or transfer to the BSc.
Funding for a MSc (postgraduate Masters) is difficult to get and must be sought out through research councils (though your MSc must then be linked to a PhD, forcing you to do a PhD; or at least this is the case with the ESRC).
I would want to do a PhD but only part time with a science related job.
Would the ESRC also fund the PhD?
JohnnyHouse
I would want to do a PhD but only part time with a science related job.
Would the ESRC also fund the PhD?
Would the ESRC also fund the PhD?
The ESRC only fund Economics and Social Sciences degrees. You would have to enquire about that at one of the science research councils, depending on your field. My guess is though, in your case your employer would have to fund you - though don't quote me on that.
You may want to ask about this in the postgraduate forum.
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