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What would people use as a counter argument?

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Evaluate the view that the Labour Party has returned to its original ideological position.
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You could argue that Labour has returned to its ideological position
- Prominence of Unions
- Commitment to workers rights by wanting to remain in the EU
- 2019 GE promising to nationalise huge amounts (or just Corbyn in General)

Has not
- Clause IV has not been reinstated
- Starmer is more centrist than socialist
- Still mainly socially democratic rather than democratically socialist.

In short, the way I would do it is to compare Old Labour with New Labour and determine which is more prominent today.
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Also there is a lot of political division within labour, so all though Corbyn is quite far left, the party as a whole doesn't necessarily represent the same standings. Many people left the labour party/ or their duties e.g Tom Watson deputy leader as he publicly didn't support Corbyn, he voted for Owen Smith in labour leadership contest in 2016. It can be argued there are greater divisions within the labour party then between labour party and parties.
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(Original post by Tinders)
You could argue that Labour has returned to its ideological position
- Prominence of Unions
- Commitment to workers rights by wanting to remain in the EU
- 2019 GE promising to nationalise huge amounts (or just Corbyn in General)

Has not
- Clause IV has not been reinstated
- Starmer is more centrist than socialist
- Still mainly socially democratic rather than democratically socialist.

In short, the way I would do it is to compare Old Labour with New Labour and determine which is more prominent today.
I started planning an essay to compare Blair’s Labour with Corbyn’s - was that what you were referring to?
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(Original post by Dan Silverman)
I started planning an essay to compare Blair’s Labour with Corbyn’s - was that what you were referring to?
You could do it like that yes. But don’t forget Brown and Milliband as well as the likes of Michael Foot too
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