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    Danny,

    [q3]>>> Anyway, that lot came from oed.com.[/q3]
    [q2]>>[/q2]
    [q2]>> ...which is roughly where my OED.url points to. (It's actually[/q2]
    [q2]>> dictionary.oed.com/entrance.dtl, which skips the pointless[/q2]
    [q2]>> title page.)[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> Just use dictionary.com[/q1]

    For some reason I think dictionary.com will sit out the debate over the
    history of the word "friend".

    (And BTW it works with or without the "www.".)

    Mark.

    [q2]> >What are VPN and VNC?[/q2]
    [q2]> >[/q2]
    [q2]> >Mark.[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> Not so sure about VPN... stands for virtual private network or[/q1]
    [q1]> sthing like.[/q1]

    Corectamundo.

    A VPN connection is an encrypted link between some remote computer and a
    company's LAN, and it gives the remote computer all the access it would
    have exactly as if it was directly connected to the LAN.

    Which is useful.

    adam

    [q1]> VNC is basically a way to use your computer from someone elses - it[/q1]
    [q1]> sends the data from teh keyboard and mouse you're using to your[/q1]
    [q1]> computer, and sends the graphics data back. All you need is a small[/q1]
    [q1]> program installed on your computer, a working reasonably recent[/q1]
    [q1]> browser on the other computer, and a reasonably fast connection in[/q1]
    [q1]> between. You could probably get away with it on ADSL, but I doubt any[/q1]
    [q1]> slower would be usable...[/q1]

    VNC isn't THAT bad on a dialup... I've used it with both ends on dialup
    (once), and providing the colours are restricted to 8-bit (in options)
    its suprisingly workable. I've seen a variant - TinyVNC?? - which is
    even faster as it optimises the network traffic.

    Peter

    "Mark Thakkar" <[email protected] > wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    [q1]> Danny,[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q2]> >> You do computer science and therefore have no friends so you don't[/q2]
    [q2]> >> need to worry [/q2]
    [q2]> >[/q2]
    [q2]> > This is also made evident by the fact that you are curious about[/q2]
    [q2]> > something that is on your mind a lot, inadvertently you've let the[/q2]
    [q2]> > group know you are friendless.[/q2]
    [q2]> >[/q2]
    [q2]> > Just joking![/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> Er... Don't get it.[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> Speaking of which, today I found an occasion to tell my mum the old[/q1]
    [q1]> joke: "I've had enough of these dyslexia jokes. They're not clever,[/q1]
    [q1]> and they're not furry." She didn't get it. Twice.[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> Mark.[/q1]

    Both of your jokes are awful. You sicken me. It's obvious to me you
    haven't got A-level Maths

    --
    MMH

    "Mark Thakkar" <[email protected] > wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    [q1]> Gaurav,[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q2]> >> You do computer science and therefore have no friends so you don't[/q2]
    [q2]> >> need to worry [/q2]
    [q2]> >[/q2]
    [q2]> > I've made lots of friends on my course.[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> Whoah, touchy.[/q1]

    Erm, I was providing a counter example to his statement...

    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q2]> > Incidentally, not one of my 6 best friends applied to Oxbridge. And[/q2]
    [q2]> > I now feel crap that I did.[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> Not that we've noticed, or anything. ;-)[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]

    I'll assume that was "funny one" from Thakker that no one gets.

    --
    Gaurav Sharma www.gaurav.info

    Geurev,

    [q3]>>>> You do computer science and therefore have no friends[/q3]
    [q3]>>> I've made lots of friends on my course.[/q3]
    [q2]>> Whoah, touchy.[/q2]
    [q1]> Erm, I was providing a counter example to his statement...[/q1]

    How's life on the back foot these days?

    [q3]>>> not one of my 6 best friends applied to Oxbridge. And I now feel[/q3]
    [q3]>>> crap that I did.[/q3]
    [q2]>>[/q2]
    [q2]>> Not that we've noticed, or anything. ;-)[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> I'll assume that was "funny one" from Thakker that no one gets.[/q1]

    <appeals to the gallery>

    Mark.

    On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 11:59:44 -0000, Mark Thakkar
    <[email protected] > wrote:

    [q1]>Danny,[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q3]>>>>> You do computer science and therefore have no friends so you don't[/q3]
    [q3]>>>>> need to worry [/q3]
    [q3]>>>>[/q3]
    [q3]>>>> This is also made evident by the fact that you are curious about[/q3]
    [q3]>>>> something that is on your mind a lot, inadvertently you've let the[/q3]
    [q3]>>>> group know you are friendless.[/q3]
    [q3]>>>>[/q3]
    [q3]>>>> Just joking![/q3]
    [q3]>>>[/q3]
    [q3]>>> Er... Don't get it.[/q3]
    [q2]>>[/q2]
    [q2]>> Try tommorow when it's not so late.[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]>Nope. It still eludes me. (If anything, the fact that he's curious[/q1]
    [q1]>about the word 'friends' would indicate that it's a word he often has[/q1]
    [q1]>occasion to use. How often do you wonder about the word 'nosegay'?)[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]>Mark.[/q1]

    If you often have occasion to use the word 'friend' it doesn't mean you
    have loads.

    Besides, it was just my silly loose logic for a bit of humour, but
    you've disected it and ruined it!

    Hmmm dunno what you're trying to get at with the nosegay thing.

    Dan

    "Mark Thakkar" <[email protected] > wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    [q1]> Geurev,[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q2]> >>>> You do computer science and therefore have no friends[/q2]
    [q2]> >>> I've made lots of friends on my course.[/q2]
    [q2]> >> Whoah, touchy.[/q2]
    [q2]> > Erm, I was providing a counter example to his statement...[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> How's life on the back foot these days?[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q2]> >>> not one of my 6 best friends applied to Oxbridge. And I now feel[/q2]
    [q2]> >>> crap that I did.[/q2]
    [q2]> >>[/q2]
    [q2]> >> Not that we've noticed, or anything. ;-)[/q2]
    [q2]> >[/q2]
    [q2]> > I'll assume that was "funny one" from Thakker that no one gets.[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> <appeals to the gallery>[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> Mark.[/q1]

    <looks for red button>

    --
    Gaurav Sharma www.gaurav.info

    [q1]>How often do you wonder about the word 'nosegay'?)[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]>Mark.[/q1]

    Whenever I go to the Union.

    Danny,

    [q2]>> (If anything, the fact that he's curious about the word 'friends'[/q2]
    [q2]>> would indicate that it's a word he often has occasion to use. How[/q2]
    [q2]>> often do you wonder about the word 'nosegay'?)[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> If you often have occasion to use the word 'friend' it doesn't mean[/q1]
    [q1]> you have loads.[/q1]

    True; but someone with no friends isn't likely to use the word much.
    (Except, I suppose, in saying "I wish I had some friends", but that's
    only if they're honest with themselves.)

    [q1]> Besides, it was just my silly loose logic for a bit of humour, but[/q1]
    [q1]> you've disected it and ruined it![/q1]

    Sorry, I didn't mean to - I genuinely didn't get it. (Still don't, but
    let it pass, as all things must do.)

    [q1]> Hmmm dunno what you're trying to get at with the nosegay thing.[/q1]

    My brother and I were talking about 'nosegay' today. (He thought I'd
    made it up...) It's not a word I remember ever hearing or reading, which
    makes me wonder how I know it.

    Mark.

    Gaurav,

    [q1]> <looks for red button>[/q1]

    <blank incomprehension>

    Mark.

    "Gaurav Sharma" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> "Mark Thakkar" <[email protected] > wrote in message[/q1]
    [q1]> news:[email protected]...[/q1]
    [q2]> > Geurev,[/q2]
    [q2]> >[/q2]
    [q3]> > >>>> You do computer science and therefore have no friends[/q3]
    [q3]> > >>> I've made lots of friends on my course.[/q3]
    [q3]> > >> Whoah, touchy.[/q3]
    [q3]> > > Erm, I was providing a counter example to his statement...[/q3]
    [q2]> >[/q2]
    [q2]> > How's life on the back foot these days?[/q2]
    [q2]> >[/q2]
    [q3]> > >>> not one of my 6 best friends applied to Oxbridge. And I now feel[/q3]
    [q3]> > >>> crap that I did.[/q3]
    [q3]> > >>[/q3]
    [q3]> > >> Not that we've noticed, or anything. ;-)[/q3]
    [q3]> > >[/q3]
    [q3]> > > I'll assume that was "funny one" from Thakker that no one gets.[/q3]
    [q2]> >[/q2]
    [q2]> > <appeals to the gallery>[/q2]
    [q2]> >[/q2]
    [q2]> > Mark.[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> <looks for red button>[/q1]

    I'll assume that was "funny one" from Sharma that no one gets.

    Thank you you're marvellous.

    "Craig Fothergill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    [q2]> >How often do you wonder about the word 'nosegay'?)[/q2]
    [q2]> >[/q2]
    [q2]> >Mark.[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> Whenever I go to the Union.[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    (Nownow!) I first learned what a nosegay was when we sang some song
    which used it. This was in the school choir sometime before the Flood.
    Ever since Mark mentioned the word I've been trying to remember what
    the song was - some sort of 18th century Lass of Richmond hilly thing -
    but can't.

    <grumble>

    Ginnie

    On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 13:06:33 -0000, Mark Thakkar
    ([email protected]) said...
    [q1]>My brother and I were talking about 'nosegay' today. (He thought I'd[/q1]
    [q1]>made it up...) It's not a word I remember ever hearing or reading,[/q1]
    [q1]>which makes me wonder how I know it.[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]>Mark.[/q1]

    Vaguely recognised it, but couldn't think what it was. OED says a bunch
    of flowers, which definitely seems familiar. Now I just have to work out
    where the hell I read it...

    chris

    [q1]> I'll assume that was "funny one" from Sharma that no one gets.[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]

    Was looking out for that one

    James

    "Mark Thakkar" <[email protected] > wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    [q1]> Gaurav,[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q2]> > <looks for red button>[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> <blank incomprehension>[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> Mark.[/q1]

    <hears screams>

    Eeeeaaxcellent...

    --
    Gaurav Sharma www.gaurav.info

    "Jess" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> "Gaurav Sharma" <[email protected]> wrote in message[/q1]
    [q1]> news:[email protected]...[/q1]
    [q2]> >[/q2]
    [q2]> > "Mark Thakkar" <[email protected] > wrote in message[/q2]
    [q2]> > news:[email protected]...[/q2]
    [q3]> > > Geurev,[/q3]
    [q3]> > >[/q3]
    [q3]> > > >>>> You do computer science and therefore have no friends[/q3]
    [q3]> > > >>> I've made lots of friends on my course.[/q3]
    [q3]> > > >> Whoah, touchy.[/q3]
    [q3]> > > > Erm, I was providing a counter example to his statement...[/q3]
    [q3]> > >[/q3]
    [q3]> > > How's life on the back foot these days?[/q3]
    [q3]> > >[/q3]
    [q3]> > > >>> not one of my 6 best friends applied to Oxbridge. And I now[/q3]
    [q3]> > > >>> feel crap that I did.[/q3]
    [q3]> > > >>[/q3]
    [q3]> > > >> Not that we've noticed, or anything. ;-)[/q3]
    [q3]> > > >[/q3]
    [q3]> > > > I'll assume that was "funny one" from Thakker that no one gets.[/q3]
    [q3]> > >[/q3]
    [q3]> > > <appeals to the gallery>[/q3]
    [q3]> > >[/q3]
    [q3]> > > Mark.[/q3]
    [q2]> >[/q2]
    [q2]> > <looks for red button>[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> I'll assume that was "funny one" from Sharma that no one gets.[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> Thank you you're marvellous.[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]

    ****, that sorta backfired.

    --
    Gaurav Sharma www.gaurav.info

    [q2]>> >How often do you wonder about the word 'nosegay'?)[/q2]
    [q2]>>[/q2]
    [q2]>> Whenever I go to the Union.[/q2]

    There is a cafe opposite the Union - the Nosegay Cafe.

    Craig,

    [q3]>>>> How often do you wonder about the word 'nosegay'?)[/q3]
    [q3]>>>[/q3]
    [q3]>>> Whenever I go to the Union.[/q3]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> There is a cafe opposite the Union - the Nosegay Cafe.[/q1]

    It's the Nosebag, you moo. Opposite the Three Goats' Ears.

    Mark.

    "Mark Thakkar" <[email protected] > wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    [q1]> Craig,[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q2]> >>>> How often do you wonder about the word 'nosegay'?)[/q2]
    [q2]> >>>[/q2]
    [q2]> >>> Whenever I go to the Union.[/q2]
    [q2]> >[/q2]
    [q2]> > There is a cafe opposite the Union - the Nosegay Cafe.[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> It's the Nosebag, you moo. Opposite the Three Goats' Ears.[/q1]

    The Two Cows' Heads? Of course strictly speaking the cafe is called the
    Saddlebag, whereas the restaurant upstairs is called the Nosebag.

    Josh
 
 
 
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