Is the UK really a developed country?

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As Africa doesn't touch our death toll (despite Co-Vid 19 affecting so many of our BAME community), or Italy, France's or Spain's for that matter?
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UK is highly developed, and many comparative international figures for coronavirus excess deaths will be only available much later. The UK was just not very organised, too secretive, and started the lockdown too late, as did many other countries. More details in about a year!

Currently Chile is “doing the worst” in excess death rate, nominalised for the population size, but again, wait for real data.
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(Original post by Pleasantri)
As Africa doesn't touch our death toll (despite Co-Vid 19 affecting so many of our BAME community), or Italy, France's or Spain's for that matter?
That we know of. I frankly wouldn't trust any statistics from Africa at the moment, there is bound to be severe under-reporting.
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(Original post by Pleasantri)
As Africa doesn't touch our death toll (despite Co-Vid 19 affecting so many of our BAME community), or Italy, France's or Spain's for that matter?
Of course it is, this virus is immaterial to that fact. Also not sure why blacks being more susceptible would make Britain 'less developed' ?
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(Original post by Pleasantri)
As Africa doesn't touch our death toll (despite Co-Vid 19 affecting so many of our BAME community), or Italy, France's or Spain's for that matter?
Covid death toll /=/ Developed country status
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Doctors are saying that the virus can barely survive topical and hot countries and kills the virus much more quickly. That's why it's barely touched Africa. The UK is sometimes a cold country and the cold also affects our level of thinking in a good way, which helps us think about how to think and manage ourselves to be a developed nation. Well, that's what I think anyways!
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(Original post by Pleasantri)
As Africa doesn't touch our death toll (despite Co-Vid 19 affecting so many of our BAME community), or Italy, France's or Spain's for that matter?
Not particularly, death toll is not indicative of how developed a country is. It is more to do with a mishandling of the situation by incompetent politicans
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Doctors are saying that the virus can barely survive topical and hot countries and kills the virus much more quickly. That's why it's barely touched Africa. The UK is sometimes a cold country and the cold also affects our level of thinking in a good way, which helps us think about how to think and manage ourselves to be a developed nation. Well, that's what I think anyways!
Some other specialists are saying that this theory is bunk though... Especially given its not insignificant spread through Asia.
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We're a wealthy country. We're able to have free schools, free healthcare and water flows from all our taps. Yeah I'd say we're very much a developed country. Ok the death rates aren't as high in Africa in regards to coronavirus - so what? its still got many other issues of its own and their death rates are still pretty high in regards to many other illnesses - or the mere fact that many of them are dying of famine.
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Given the high life expectancy in 'developed' countries, their demographic profiles and their talent for keeping very ill people alive (but vulnerable to other infections), I'd lean towards expecting a higher death rate in such countries than I would in Africa.
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yes i don't know why you chose a single, highly time sensitive and exceptionally narrow metric for development
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(Original post by Napp)
Some other specialists are saying that this theory is bunk though... Especially given its not insignificant spread through Asia.
Asia was more prepared for the virus, especially China because of the SARS, so they reacted more to the outbreak unlike the UK. The UK is still developed, just a case of that idea that developed nation means the virus wouldn't get to us? It's still a developed country and just because the virus hit, doesn't mean it was wrong to be marked a developed country. Maybe to launch a case for a re-definition of how the term is defined but I think that would be less likely to happen.
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(Original post by rcmotorboy)
Asia was more prepared for the virus, especially China because of the SARS, so they reacted more to the outbreak unlike the UK. The UK is still developed, just a case of that idea that developed nation means the virus wouldn't get to us? It's still a developed country and just because the virus hit, doesn't mean it was wrong to be marked a developed country. Maybe to launch a case for a re-definition of how the term is defined but I think that would be less likely to happen.
Indeed it was, that doesnt detract from the dubiousness of the theory that a tropical climate blitzes the virus though.

I'm not sure what you're grinding at on the topic of 'developed nation' though?
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The only country that is a developed nation but isn't actually, is the US. The more I hear about living in the US the more I wonder why we painted it like the land of the free.

I agree however, developed countries not equal to covid deaths. There's a lot of factors to consider and really a lot of it is how the government decides to proceed with measures to help their nation.
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(Original post by Napp)
Some other specialists are saying that this theory is bunk though... Especially given its not insignificant spread through Asia.
I was reading your comment again, I think you meant "debunk", not bunk. I think the OP was pointing out because the virus had its affect on the UK unlike China, then there must be someone wrong with a developed country like the UK with how the country has been affected by the virus but the OP doesn't explain any of to what they think about it. I'm not sure what the original poster is on about, making anyone post and maybe I'm too stupid to post to explain, myself being from the UK, like I'm extremely proud and always had some pride. Doesn't seem right. Shame on OP.
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We're developed, we just really ****ed our whole Covid-19 procedures.
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(Original post by Napp)
Of course it is, this virus is immaterial to that fact. Also not sure why blacks being more susceptible would make Britain 'less developed' ?
That's exactly OP's point, that black people are not more susceptible to Covid-19 as proven by the low rate of cases/deaths in Africa. Meaning that the fact they're more affected in Britain is less to do with genetics and more to do with policy.
This of course is worrying and poses questions about how a developed country like the UK achieved substantially worse outcomes than under-developed countries.

And regarding the argument that African countries may not be keeping good records of deaths. It'd be somewhat difficult to hide out things like mass burials or masses of people overwhelming hospitals...international journalists would be able to capture that.
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(Original post by Pleasantri)
As Africa doesn't touch our death toll (despite Co-Vid 19 affecting so many of our BAME community), or Italy, France's or Spain's for that matter?
Most countries in Africa aren’t developed in terms of their infrastructure. In England there are many transport links up and down the countries. Yes there are a lot of delays but it’s easier for transmission.
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Coronavirus always was going to hit the developed world more rapidly than countries that aren't so interlinked with other countries. When it seriously takes off in in African countries, it has the potential to devastate them. There is also the fact that they don't have the centralised state infrastructure we do, hence deaths will likely go unreported.

(Original post by rcmotorboy)
Doctors are saying that the virus can barely survive topical and hot countries and kills the virus much more quickly. That's why it's barely touched Africa. The UK is sometimes a cold country and the cold also affects our level of thinking in a good way, which helps us think about how to think and manage ourselves to be a developed nation. Well, that's what I think anyways!
The rapidly worsening situation in Brazil falsifies such a perspective.
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That we know of. I frankly wouldn't trust any statistics from Africa at the moment, there is bound to be severe under-reporting.
Not just that - there are far far fewer old people and most societies are far less mobile.
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