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Im considering doing a phd, and ive searched on google for where it can lead with differing opinions so i am wondering if i can a personal perspective from someone who has done or is doing a phd. So is it worth it, where does it lead to, did you enjoy it? Did u get funding?
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It really depends on what you want to become in the future; if you want to become an academic you need to do a PhD but if you just want a job there is no point in doing a PhD unless you are rich. Also, doing tla PhD just so that you can be called Dr is the worst reason for doing a PhD.
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I hold one. Was a nice few years work-wise, and it uncovered a few things about me that I am glad to know, eg. I like teaching and I am good at it

Academia is dead on its arse job-wise so prospects are not great, but it can still be worth it. Depends what you want out of it. I was funded by a research council
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It really depends on what you want to become in the future; if you want to become an academic you need to do a PhD but if you just want a job there is no point in doing a PhD unless you are rich. Also, doing tla PhD just so that you can be called Dr is the worst reason for doing a PhD.
Have you done one, or were u considering doing one, thats a good point, i dont really see myself as an academic
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I hold one. Was a nice few years work-wise, and it uncovered a few things about me that I am glad to know, eg. I like teaching and I am good at it

Academia is dead on its arse job-wise so prospects are not great, but it can still be worth it. Depends what you want out of it. I was funded by a research council
What was your phd in? So are you an academic at some university?
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I hold one. Was a nice few years work-wise, and it uncovered a few things about me that I am glad to know, eg. I like teaching and I am good at it

Academia is dead on its arse job-wise so prospects are not great, but it can still be worth it. Depends what you want out of it. I was funded by a research council
When you mean dead in its arse, do you mean the actual job of being an academic is boring?
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What was your phd in? So are you an academic at some university?
Philosophy, with 2 languages

Barely. Fixed term, and contract ends this month. This is normal for ECRs. It is not an easy life
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Subject area?
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When you mean dead in its arse, do you mean the actual job of being an academic is boring?
Getting into academia is very, very difficult and fewer than 10% of PhD holders manage a career

COVID has made the job market 100x worse
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Subject area?
For me i was thinking doing a phd in either maths, physics, mathematical finance, along the lines of those
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Getting into academia is very, very difficult and fewer than 10% of PhD holders manage a career

COVID has made the job market 100x worse
Yeah i understand, how long ago did you finish your phd, and whats your plans for when your contract runs out?
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Yeah i understand, how long ago did you finish your phd, and whats your plans for when your contract runs out?
Was awarded April '19

I had something like 40 applications out, the vast majority of which have now been cancelled or suspended owing to the pandemic and funding issues stemming from it. Still have a few that could happen, and I'm on a shortlist for one if them so that is tentatively possible

Also applied for teacher training to fill a year, get a teaching qual (all universities want this now) and have a sensible, solid career to switch to. Depending what happens with offers depends which route I take
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Im considering doing a phd, and ive searched on google for where it can lead with differing opinions so i am wondering if i can a personal perspective from someone who has done or is doing a phd. So is it worth it, where does it lead to, did you enjoy it? Did u get funding?
I am a current PhD student about 9 months in officially (but my masters thesis lined up directly, so about 12 months work so far).

Why did I want to do a PhD, honestly I fell in live with the field and the project and thought id never get the opportunity to work like this again if I went into industry right after my masters.

I spent a lot of time thinking the better decison (financially) was to just go into a grad job, I had some good opportunities and it was a head v heart choice
But the PhD did have some additional pulls:
1) Job prospects, I spent a year in industry (during undergrad) and everyone with a PhD seemed to find themselves in either a technical specialist or management position so I thought those with a PhD clearly demonstrate to employers some degree of confidence for higher grade positions.
2) I had also considered moving from a technical role into looking into IP/finance/consulting and thought a PhD might keep these doors open,
3) I had just moved city and was enjoying life outside of academia as well, I think if I wasn't happy where I was I would have jumped into a job somewhere else

I do have funding, I wouldn't do a PhD without funding.

Would I recommend it, if you really love the subject and think you'll still have good exit opportunities then yes. But I think your heart has to be in it, otherwise it could be a painful very underpaid job.
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Have you done one, or were u considering doing one, thats a good point, i dont really see myself as an academic
I have not done one but my mother has done one in maths.
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I am a current PhD student about 9 months in officially (but my masters thesis lined up directly, so about 12 months work so far).

Why did I want to do a PhD, honestly I fell in live with the field and the project and thought id never get the opportunity to work like this again if I went into industry right after my masters.

I spent a lot of time thinking the better decison (financially) was to just go into a grad job, I had some good opportunities and it was a head v heart choice
But the PhD did have some additional pulls:
1) Job prospects, I spent a year in industry (during undergrad) and everyone with a PhD seemed to find themselves in either a technical specialist or management position so I thought those with a PhD clearly demonstrate to employers some degree of confidence for higher grade positions.
2) I had also considered moving from a technical role into looking into IP/finance/consulting and thought a PhD might keep these doors open,
3) I had just moved city and was enjoying life outside of academia as well, I think if I wasn't happy where I was I would have jumped into a job somewhere else

I do have funding, I wouldn't do a PhD without funding.

Would I recommend it, if you really love the subject and think you'll still have good exit opportunities then yes. But I think your heart has to be in it, otherwise it could be a painful very underpaid job.
Whats your phd in?
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Whats your phd in?
It would come under mechanical engineering.
I do thermodynamic optimisation of road transport propulsion systems, so thermodynamics both experimentally & computational modelling.
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Im considering doing a phd, and ive searched on google for where it can lead with differing opinions so i am wondering if i can a personal perspective from someone who has done or is doing a phd. So is it worth it, where does it lead to, did you enjoy it? Did u get funding?
I depends on what you want to get out of it. If it will help you get on the career path you're aiming for, or if you want to make a new contribution to knowledge, then those are fine reasons.
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I depends on what you want to get out of it. If it will help you get on the career path you're aiming for, or if you want to make a new contribution to knowledge, then those are fine reasons.
Yeah but im not sure, as its mixed whether u will get a position that you want out of it, i want to learn more but not at the cost of wasting three years, i dont see myself as an academic as well
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Im considering doing a phd, and ive searched on google for where it can lead with differing opinions so i am wondering if i can a personal perspective from someone who has done or is doing a phd. So is it worth it, where does it lead to, did you enjoy it? Did u get funding?
No. Be patient and you will find a job. Take a lower paying job if you have to.

Running back to Academia because it's comfortable is not the answer.
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No. Be patient and you will find a job. Take a lower paying job if you have to.

Running back to Academia because it's comfortable is not the answer.
Sure, i was just thinking of my options
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