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I don't think there is a "best" university. You can look up league tables and filter them based on subjects if you want, for whatever that is worth. But also take into consideration how you feel about the city the university resides in, the people there, the campus and lab settings etc which can also be an important and quite personal opinion.
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I don't think there is a "best" university. You can look up league tables and filter them based on subjects if you want, for whatever that is worth. But also take into consideration how you feel about the city the university resides in, the people there, the campus and lab settings etc which can also be an important and quite personal opinion.
oh cool ty I've come up with a list now actually but thanks anyway
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oh cool ty I've come up with a list now actually but thanks anyway
Cool. Good luck!
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oh cool ty I've come up with a list now actually but thanks anyway
Out of interest who is on your list, as I am doing engineering as well
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Out of interest who is on your list, as I am doing engineering as well
Warwick, Abyryswyth, UoB, Cambridge. recommendations as to what could be added or removed?
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Warwick, Abyryswyth, UoB, Cambridge. recommendations as to what could be added or removed?
What a weird collection!

Delete all - do you want to work as an Engineer? If so you need to look for a course with a year in industry - Bath, Loughborough, Oxford Brookes would be a good start.

Aber is very isolated and not a great rep.

Warwick - marmite uni better for Maths, MORSE etc.

UoB - wasn;t sure which uni that was Bath, Birmingham, Brighton or ...

Cambridge - very theoretical with no year in industry.
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What a weird collection!

Delete all - do you want to work as an Engineer? If so you need to look for a course with a year in industry - Bath, Loughborough, Oxford Brookes would be a good start.

Aber is very isolated and not a great rep.

Warwick - marmite uni better for Maths, MORSE etc.

UoB - wasn;t sure which uni that was Bath, Birmingham, Brighton or ...

Cambridge - very theoretical with no year in industry.
ty and yeah I didn't really pick up on the uob thing. I remembered the two colleges in Birmingham which I always confuse and thought "yeah there is no chance anyone would mistake this for anything 🙃" but yeah. uo BIRMINGHAM eh. I'm a weird one sometimes. ty for the recommendations!
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What a weird collection!

Delete all - do you want to work as an Engineer? If so you need to look for a course with a year in industry - Bath, Loughborough, Oxford Brookes would be a good start.

Aber is very isolated and not a great rep.

Warwick - marmite uni better for Maths, MORSE etc.

UoB - wasn;t sure which uni that was Bath, Birmingham, Brighton or ...

Cambridge - very theoretical with no year in industry.
Is a year in industry essential (the most important thing)? I've got an offer from Queen Mary and a year in industry is available.
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ty and yeah I didn't really pick up on the uob thing. I remembered the two colleges in Birmingham which I always confuse and thought "yeah there is no chance anyone would mistake this for anything 🙃" but yeah. uo BIRMINGHAM eh. I'm a weird one sometimes. ty for the recommendations!
Yep easily done.

Engineering has changed a lot with far more use of CAD and CFD - some courses have not adapted and if you haven't got work experience you will struggle to get a graduate job.

My best students now tend to look outside RG and then walk into great jobs.
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Is a year in industry essential (the most important thing)? I've got an offer from Queen Mary and a year in industry is available.
Keep the option open if you can - obviously with COVID the opportunities might decrease. You can start a course wanting the year and then not do it if you can't find a placement.
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Yep easily done.

Engineering has changed a lot with far more use of CAD and CFD - some courses have not adapted and if you haven't got work experience you will struggle to get a graduate job.

My best students now tend to look outside RG and then walk into great jobs.
I love all things CAD I did pick graphic communications but a weird mix up thing got me into DT instead but I will never say I am sad about this change!
I was lucky enough to have experience with CFD and CAD quite early on, but I still haven't had a chance to try out CAE.
also what is RG?
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Rankings consistently put Oxford, Cambridge and Imperial as the top three for general engineering. For some, more specialised, areas, you may need to look elsewhere.

Oxford Ranked First in World for Engineering

Oxford Ranked World's Best University for Fourth Year Running

Full disclosure: I read Engineering and Computing Science at Oxford
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Rankings consistently put Oxford, Cambridge and Imperial as the top three for general engineering. For some, more specialised, areas, you may need to look elsewhere.

Oxford Ranked First in World for Engineering

Oxford Ranked World's Best University for Fourth Year Running

Full disclosure: I read Engineering and Computing Science at Oxford
Yes but how long ago Roger? Lots of Oxbridge grads don't now go into Engineering.

In the last ten years Engineering has changed dramatically and so have the choices of top candidates who actually want to be Engineers.
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I love all things CAD I did pick graphic communications but a weird mix up thing got me into DT instead but I will never say I am sad about this change!
I was lucky enough to have experience with CFD and CAD quite early on, but I still haven't had a chance to try out CAE.
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RG = Russell group universities - these aren't relevant for Engineering. Look for industry accreditation.
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Yes but how long ago Roger? Lots of Oxbridge grads don't now go into Engineering.
The "World Number One" article is from December 2018 (2019 rankings). Oxford was the first UK university to reach number one in that ranking.

It's been the case that "Lots of Oxbridge grads don't now go into Engineering" for decades. When I graduated in 1991, the top employment sector for Oxford Engineering Science graduates was accountancy. IMO, that's down to money, and Oxford graduates being highly valued by many sectors.
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Just a few things to think about:
Do you know which engineering discipline you want to go into? Not all unis offer all disciplines for example Lancaster doen't offer civil eng. Also if you don't know which one you want to go into see which unis offer a first year general, off the top of my head Birmingham, Lancaster and Bristol (I think) all do a first year of general and then allow you to choose what you want to specialise in.
Is the degree accredited? By this I mean it should be approved by the relevant institutions, for example a civil engineering degree should be accredited by the Institution of Civil Engineers (ICE), along with other relevant institutions.
If you are applying for an MEng course, does it give you the necessary knowledge to become a chartered engineer once you have started working in industry.
And also another thing that others have mentioned - the year in industry is important for engineering degrees as it gains you the necesary experience before entering 'the world of work'

Remember that some of the better engineering unis aren't ranked that highly in the overall uni league tables - engineering is a very practical subject that is continually developing compared to some of your other degrees that are more 'just learning' based.
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The "World Number One" article is from December 2018.

It's been the case that "Lots of Oxbridge grads don't now go into Engineering" for decades. When I graduated in 1991, the top employment sector for Oxford Engineering Science graduates was accountancy. IMO, that's down to money, and Oxford graduates being highly valued by many sectors.
No, the reason the don't go into Engineering now is they don't get them as they aren't prepared for industry these days. [Direct proof of other grads beating them to top jobs]

We've discussed league tables before - they are flawed in many ways;
* the collection of data
* the survey method
* the analysis
* the weighting

If you ask to look at the raw data you will find it could be manipulated to say anything you want and produce any order.
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Just a few things to think about:
Do you know which engineering discipline you want to go into? Not all unis offer all disciplines for example Lancaster doen't offer civil eng. Also if you don't know which one you want to go into see which unis offer a first year general, off the top of my head Birmingham, Lancaster and Bristol (I think) all do a first year of general and then allow you to choose what you want to specialise in.
Is the degree accredited? By this I mean it should be approved by the relevant institutions, for example a civil engineering degree should be accredited by the Institution of Civil Engineers (ICE), along with other relevant institutions.
If you are applying for an MEng course, does it give you the necessary knowledge to become a chartered engineer once you have started working in industry.
And also another thing that others have mentioned - the year in industry is important for engineering degrees as it gains you the necesary experience before entering 'the world of work'

Remember that some of the better engineering unis aren't ranked that highly in the overall uni league tables - engineering is a very practical subject that is continually developing compared to some of your other degrees that are more 'just learning' based.
I have multiple interests. Civil, mechanical, aerospace, electrical is slowly growing on me but at this point, I still don't like it too much.
thankyou so much for this fat blob of info! that isn't sarcasm, it was really helpful :3 I just remembered I haven't given any cookies on this thread yet! 🍣🥑🍣
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RG = Russell group universities - these aren't relevant for Engineering. Look for industry accreditation.
aah right. thankyou I moved out of a college as well. I am somewhat sceptical of my choice, but as long as I get the grades, I think I am happy. same goes for you, good sir!🍣🥑🍣
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What a weird collection!

Delete all - do you want to work as an Engineer? If so you need to look for a course with a year in industry - Bath, Loughborough, Oxford Brookes would be a good start.

Aber is very isolated and not a great rep.

Warwick - marmite uni better for Maths, MORSE etc.

UoB - wasn;t sure which uni that was Bath, Birmingham, Brighton or ...

Cambridge - very theoretical with no year in industry.
What do you think of Nottingham with a year in industry?
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