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Hi, I have got offers from UCL,Southampton, Edinburgh and Manchester for electrical and electronic engineering, can I know which uni is better in this department? Apparently manchester is the highest among these unis in qs ranking but is it really so?
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Rankings should be at the bottom of your list of priorities. Have you visited them all?
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Hi, I have got offers from UCL,Southampton, Edinburgh and Manchester for electrical and electronic engineering, can I know which uni is better in this department? Apparently manchester is the highest among these unis in qs ranking but is it really so?
UCL > Manchester/Edinburgh > Southampton
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Rankings should be at the bottom of your list of priorities. Have you visited them all?
Hi, no i am an international student so I haven't got a chance to visit them in person. Apart from rankings, do you know which uni is better in terms of chances given to the students(eg competition) and employability?
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UCL > Manchester/Edinburgh > Southampton
Hi, can I know why you chose ucl over the others? I heard that ucl doesn't really specialise in engineering department and Southampton is. And is manchester really good in their Eee department?
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UCL > Manchester/Edinburgh > Southampton
Reasoning? I'm at least 10 years out of date on this but its not what academics in EEE were saying in the past. I guess an exception might be if someone wanted to go into IB.
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Hi, can I know why you chose ucl over the others? I heard that ucl doesn't really specialise in engineering department and Southampton is. And is manchester really good in their Eee department?
UCL is a world top 15 Uni.

It's in a different class to the others. Employers value University reputation much more than specific subject strength, especially for international employers (e.g. China, US).
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Reasoning? I'm at least 10 years out of date on this but its not what academics in EEE were saying in the past. I guess an exception might be if someone wanted to go into IB.
Academically + research power-wise, this ranking would be different.

But for an international student looking at employability, I believe it's accurate.
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Academically + research power-wise, this ranking would be different.

But for an international student looking at employability, I believe it's accurate.
fair point.
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Check domestic rankings from
The Guardian
The Complete University Guide
The Sunday Times or The Times
For the course EEE.
Don’t just focus on overall rankings
Also figure out which course your prefer from the topics they cover
Where you prefer to live ?
If you get a job in U.K. they are all well known. If abroad I do not know.
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Have a look at the domestic rankings from
The Guardian
Complete university guide
The Times and The Sunday Times
For EEE
Don’t get too hung up on overall university ranking
If you get job in U.K. they are all well known
If you get job abroad then some may not be well known

Figure out which course appeals to you more
Where you want to live ?
Which university domestically is strong for EEE from the domestic rankings

Guardian and complete university guide
Rate Southampton better than UCL, Edinburgh, Manchester for EEE

If you want to go into investment banking or management consulting then UCL is a “target school”.
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I have had friends that did EEE in Southampton and UCL and I, myself attend University of Manchester. From what I have heard and seen Southampton is on another level and if you are truly interested in the subject and want to learn more and have more options in engineering industry when you graduate, definitely choose Southampton, employees within the UK are aware of the quality but I am not so sure about International employers.

EEE department in UCL from what I have heard is a bit disorganised and my friend did not quite enjoy the experience. The courses they offer seems to be more electronic/software oriented and it would be suitable for telecommunication/software and electronic industries but not so much for electrical. However, as others mentioned it is a target university and if you are positive that you want to go into banking definitely choose UCL without a doubt as it gives you a better chance in this sector but beware of the fact that the competition is stiff.

Manchester overall has been a great experience for me and staff have been very much supportive. University has a good link with industry and has a good balance of modules you can choose. Having said that, strength of department is mostly in Electrical sector rather than Electronic and Software and if you are interested in working in the Electrical and Power sectors, I think Manchester is your best bet as there is a job bloom in this sector in UK and you would be highly sought after.


Overall if you put the effort and are passionate about your studies any of these universities would provide good opportunities for you.My order of preference would be Southampton > Manchester > UCL > Edinburgh . Obviously I am biased toward Manchester
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I have had friends that did EEE in Southampton and UCL and I, myself attend University of Manchester. From what I have heard and seen Southampton is on another level and if you are truly interested in the subject and want to learn more and have more options in engineering industry when you graduate, definitely choose Southampton, employees within the UK are aware of the quality but I am not so sure about International employers.

EEE department in UCL from what I have heard is a bit disorganised and my friend did not quite enjoy the experience. The courses they offer seems to be more electronic/software oriented and it would be suitable for telecommunication/software and electronic industries but not so much for electrical. However, as others mentioned it is a target university and if you are positive that you want to go into banking definitely choose UCL without a doubt as it gives you a better chance in this sector but beware of the fact that the competition is stiff.

Manchester overall has been a great experience for me and staff have been very much supportive. University has a good link with industry and has a good balance of modules you can choose. Having said that, strength of department is mostly in Electrical sector rather than Electronic and Software and if you are interested in working in the Electrical and Power sectors, I think Manchester is your best bet as there is a job bloom in this sector in UK and you would be highly sought after.


Overall if you put the effort and are passionate about your studies any of these universities would provide good opportunities for you.My order of preference would be Southampton > Manchester > UCL > Edinburgh . Obviously I am biased toward Manchester
Hi thank you for your advice! Does that mean that if i want to focus on software engineering, manchester might not be a good choice? And also, u mentioned that UCL is good for banking, but how do I get involved in banking in UCL when my course is EEE? I'm asking this because I do have some thoughts of joining banking sector in the future, like fintech! Thank you for your advice!
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Hi thank you for your advice! Does that mean that if i want to focus on software engineering, manchester might not be a good choice? And also, u mentioned that UCL is good for banking, but how do I get involved in banking in UCL when my course is EEE? I'm asking this because I do have some thoughts of joining banking sector in the future, like fintech! Thank you for your advice!
The banking and finance sectors recruit from all subjects, so get involved with internships in banking etc while at university, attend the little seminars that they setup, join relevant societies.

UCL will be best for this (partly because it's in London), though Manchester won't be too far behind. I'd say Manchester is probably the best compromise between quality of engineering degree and international reputation.
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The banking and finance sectors recruit from all subjects, so get involved with internships in banking etc while at university, attend the little seminars that they setup, join relevant societies.

UCL will be best for this (partly because it's in London), though Manchester won't be too far behind. I'd say Manchester is probably the best compromise between quality of engineering degree and international reputation.
Thank you! Does that mean if im going to the fintech/ banking and financial sector while pursuing my EEE degree, UCL is a better choice even though it's engineering department is not so impressive, because i wanted to develop in banking sector? Because I am applying for a banking scholarship, so I am wondering if i should put ucl or manchester as my first choice?
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Does that mean that if i want to focus on software engineering, manchester might not be a good choice? And also, u mentioned that UCL is good for banking, but how do I get involved in banking in UCL when my course is EEE? I'm asking this because I do have some thoughts of joining banking sector in the future, like fintech! Thank you for your advice!
Both universities cover the programming essentials needed for electrical and electronic engineer to code for engineering purposes, however, the programming taught in computer science courses are far more comprehensive. The only difference is that UCL covers C and Java but Manchester is covering C/C++ the latter two languages are more useful for engineering than software development. IMO If you want to venture into software development you must learn more on your own and prepare for the coding challenges for different companies. Many of my coursemates have gone to work for reputable software companies but it would be up to you to show your skills and neither courses would be enough. You can pick a more software oriented project as your individual project for example. Manchester probably would offer more programming courses after they move to MECD where all the engineering departments and computer science department merge together but this might be too late for you.

As others have mentioned best course of action is joining the Finance or Investment Banking societies in your university they will help you to prepare. Also I suggest booking an appointment with career service consultants at your university and discuss your options with them, they are more suited to guide you.

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Thank you! Does that mean if im going to the fintech/ banking and financial sector while pursuing my EEE degree, UCL is a better choice even though it's engineering department is not so impressive, because i wanted to develop in banking sector? Because I am applying for a banking scholarship, so I am wondering if i should put ucl or manchester as my first choice?
Its not that you can not go to IB from Manchester, many of EEE graduates from Manchester are now working in finance sector but UCL might give you a slight edge. Still you have to put lot of effort yourself and learn as much as you can about the sector. I can not tell you what you choose but I provide you with some links that hopefully can help you to make your decision if you have not already made it . Take the information provided in these links with a grain of salt but overall I think they paint a good picture.

https://www.brightnetwork.co.uk/care...eering-degree/
https://www.wikijob.co.uk/content/in...stment-banking
https://targetcareers.co.uk/uni/choi...stment-banking
https://news.efinancialcareers.com/u...nt-banking-job
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