Can I travel with friends in my car?

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Gillzy
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Will it be possible if I and my friends have facemasks on? We plan to travel to falmouth from plymouth, will i get in trouble?
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Will it be possible if I and my friends have facemasks on? We plan to travel to falmouth from plymouth, will i get in trouble?
This is not within the legislation. You will all be liable for a fine.
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This is not within the legislation. You will all be liable for a fine.
Even if i manage to keep them 2m apart in the car?
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Even if i manage to keep them 2m apart in the car?
Pretty sure you can't keep people 2m (6ft) apart in a car. Also, still goes against rules. Just wait until more restrictions get lifted
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Even if i manage to keep them 2m apart in the car?
How would you manage that lol?

Yeah, it's not allowed ATM but I'm sure it won't be too much longer until it is.
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Even if i manage to keep them 2m apart in the car?
Pretty much impossible to keep 2m apart as others said wait until more restrictions are lifted.
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www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-safer-travel-guidance-for-passengers

see under the section Private cars and other vehicles
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There is nothing I can find in the legislation that would make it illegal.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/350/contents
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This is not within the legislation. You will all be liable for a fine.
What part of the legislation are you citing this from?
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Even if i manage to keep them 2m apart in the car?
Do you happen to own a bus?
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There are these things called trains, and as far as I am aware, they still serve Falmouth.
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There are these things called trains, and as far as I am aware, they still serve Falmouth.
Very Very expensive
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(Original post by Gillzy)
Very Very expensive
But legal.
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(Original post by IWMTom)
But legal.
So is using a car with friends.
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Very Very expensive
I told you the government regulations. What else do you need to argue
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So is using a car with friends.
No, it's not. See Section 7 of the regulations regarding gatherings indoors.


"During the emergency period, unless paragraph (2) applies, no person may participate in a gathering which takes place in a public or private place—
(a) outdoors, and consists of more than six persons, or;
(b) indoors, and consists of two or more persons"


As per Paragraph 3:

"(3) For the purposes of this regulation—
(a) there is a gathering when two or more people are present together in the same place in order to engage in any form of social interaction with each other, or to undertake any other activity with each other;

(b) a place is indoors if it would be considered to be enclosed or substantially enclosed for the purposes of section 2 of the Health Act 2006, under the Smoke Free (Premises and Enforcement) Regulations 2006.]"


As per Section 2 of the Smoke Free (Premises and Enforcement) Regulations 2006:

"For the purposes of section 2 of the Act, premises are enclosed if they—
(a) have a ceiling or roof; and

(b) except for doors, windows and passageways, are wholly enclosed either permanently or temporarily."


A private car is a private enclosed space according to the relevant legislature, therefore, a gathering of two or more persons from other households is illegal.

Your move.
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If the OP if a single occupier, could they maybe use the 'support bubble' exemption to get around this? It's perhaps not in the spirit of the regs but broadly speaking I think it's permissible.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/meeting-...your-household

I suppose if they were all stopped, the purpose of the trip to Falmouth might come under scrutiny though.
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(Original post by Admit-One)
If the OP if a single occupier, could they maybe use the 'support bubble' exemption to get around this? It's perhaps not in the spirit of the regs but broadly speaking I think it's permissible.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/meeting-...your-household

I suppose if they were all stopped, the purpose of the trip to Falmouth might come under scrutiny though.
My understanding of the new "support bubble" strategy is that you can only form one, so even if they did happen to be a single occupier they could only form it with one friend, which then cannot change.
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(Original post by IWMTom)
My understanding of the new "support bubble" strategy is that you can only form one, so even if they did happen to be a single occupier they could only form it with one friend, which then cannot change.
Yeah, once you make a bubble it's fixed and you can't link up to another household, (even if you 'unlink' from the first).
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Yeah, once you make a bubble it's fixed and you can't link up to another household, (even if you 'unlink' from the first).
First a social bubble... what next, a party balloon?
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