Barbary Slave trade

Nice try at rationalising racism, but you've missed the crucial issue.
Could you point me to a country where whites are discriminated against and oppressed because of their colour, as a result of their ancestors' enslavement?
It's really not rocket science.

Reply 2

Only one slave trade has had catastrophic social effects.

Reply 3

I never said that.
Also the Transatlantic Slave Trade did have more serious and pervasive effects which are still felt today.

Reply 4

Okay, I'll concede that. But my point stands that the Transatlantic slave trade has had it's own effects that are still in place today, manifesting in racism. To derail the conversation by bringing up something you otherwise wouldn't care about is disingenuous.

Reply 5

Oh dear. Maybe it is rocket science for some.
Have a little think about it and get back to me if you still can't figure it out.

Reply 6

So you are claiming that white Irish still routinely suffer institutionalised discrimination at the hands of North Africans as a result of that historical event?
Crikey!

Reply 7

Here's another pointer.
Try to differentiate between what happened 200 years ago and what is happening now.
They try your "whites are just as much victims of racism as blacks" argument again.

Reply 8

You think attitudes didn't spill over to the UK? Imperialism is also related.

Reply 9

Surnia

Read up on current affairs:

https://www.globalslaveryindex.org/2018/findings/country-studies/united-states/

https://www.antislavery.org/slavery-today/slavery-uk/

Reply 10

Burridge

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I'll just interject here and remind you that 12.5m Africans were enslaved during the Atlantic slave trade. That is over 8 times as many people.

Reply 11

That'sGreat

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Original post by QE2

Could you point me to a country where whites are discriminated against and oppressed because of their colour,

Most countries in Africa.

Reply 12

King Dracula

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When will everyone shut the **** up about slaves. They are getting boring now.

Reply 13

caravaggio2

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Original post by Burridge

I'll just interject here and remind you that 12.5m Africans were enslaved during the Atlantic slave trade. That is over 8 times as many people.

I'll just interject here and remind you that there are 40m slaves around the world today. That's nearly 4 times as many people and they're alive, not been dead for 200 years. Funny enough you don't see the same people protesting about them.

"According to the latest report published by the UN’s International Labor Organization and Walk Free Foundation, as much as 40.3 million people are living in some form of modern slavery. This figure is inclusive of 24.9 million engulfed in forced labor and 15.4 million in forced marriages. This form of slavery is predominantly, exactly by 60 percent, manifested in 10 countries.

Pakistan has been ranked 7th in the list of countries where modern slavery is rampant. Other nine countries include India, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, China, Indonesia, Nigeria, Iran, North Korea, Russia, and the Philippines."

Of course the 15m women in forced marriages get the added horror of being raped every night.
Perhaps the same people aren't shouting about it because they cant hang it on The white west

(edited 3 years ago)

Reply 14

I think I've been Poe'd.

Reply 15

Original post by That'sGreat

Most countries in Africa.

I'm dreaming all this, yes?

Reply 16

Yes, because all Christians are white and all Muslims are brown.

Reply 17

Educate_Yourself

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I've said this so many times but I will keep on saying this until people understand. Africans were enslaving each other for 1000s of years before the Europeans arrived. When the Europeans came they didn't hunt down any Africans they just traded with the kings and they happily gave some of their slaves to the Europeans. So why is it so bad when the Europeans do it but when blacks enslave their own people they get an exception?

Reply 18

Burridge

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Original post by caravaggio2

I'll just interject here and remind you that there are 40m slaves around the world today. That's nearly 4 times as many people and they're alive, not been dead for 200 years. Funny enough you don't see the same people protesting about them.

"According to the latest report published by the UN’s International Labor Organization and Walk Free Foundation, as much as 40.3 million people are living in some form of modern slavery. This figure is inclusive of 24.9 million engulfed in forced labor and 15.4 million in forced marriages. This form of slavery is predominantly, exactly by 60 percent, manifested in 10 countries.

Pakistan has been ranked 7th in the list of countries where modern slavery is rampant. Other nine countries include India, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, China, Indonesia, Nigeria, Iran, North Korea, Russia, and the Philippines."

I didn't need reminding of that but thanks anyway. I'm fully aware that there are more slaves now than there has ever been at any point in history.

The Atlantic slave trade was a systematic and institutionalised enslavement of millions of people, from a limited geographical area & along a specific trading route, justified on the basis of scientific and cultural racialism. It was orchestrated by the wealthiest and most powerful nations against a handful of lesser developed countries. Modern slavery takes on a very different form - it isn't coordinated in the way the Atlantic slave trade was (ad hoc, underground, pockets across the globe) and has a much more loose application (forced marriages, for example). Not to mention that there are now 7bn people on the planet - compared to fewer than 1bn in C19.

I'm objecting to a comparison between two systematic slave trades that doesn't take into account the scale and impact of one over the other.

Reply 19

the bear