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Afghanistan war: Russia denies paying militants to kill US troops

Bold, bold claims. I'd be curious what evidence Washington has to substantiate this.
Then again, i imagine, if this were true, whom ever is behind it simply views it as getting even for what the US did with the USSR :lol:


Russia has rejected as "baseless" accusations that it offered Taliban-linked militants rewards to kill US and other Nato troops in Afghanistan.

The New York Times and Washington Post cited US officials as saying a Russian military intelligence unit linked to assassination attempts in Europe had offered the alleged bounties last year.

The Russian embassy in the US said the claims had led to threats to diplomats.

The Taliban also denied there was any such deal with Russian intelligence.

The reports come as the US attempts to negotiate a peace deal to end the 19-year war in Afghanistan.

According to the New York Times, President Donald Trump was briefed on the reports in March, but the White House has denied this.

"Neither the president nor the vice-president were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence," said White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany on Saturday evening.

However, she added, "this does not speak to the merit of the alleged intelligence but to the inaccuracy of The New York Times story erroneously suggesting that President Trump was briefed on this matter."

The unnamed officials cited by the New York Times said US intelligence agencies had concluded months ago that a unit of Russia's GRU military intelligence agency had sought to destabilise its adversaries by covertly offering bounties for successful attacks on coalition forces.

Islamist militants, or armed criminal elements closely associated with them, were believed to have collected some money, the newspaper said.

In a series of Twitter posts, the Russian embassy in the US accused the paper of promoting fake news.



Twenty American troops died in Afghanistan in 2019, but the New York Times said it was not clear which deaths were under suspicion.

The officials quoted by the New York Times said the White House's National Security Council had considered how to respond, including imposing an escalating raft of sanctions against Russia.

The GRU unit allegedly involved has also been linked to the attempted murder of former Russian double agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia with a nerve agent in Salisbury, England, in March 2018.

A spokesman for the Taliban also called the accusations baseless.

"Our target killings and assassinations were ongoing in years before, and we did it on our own resources," Zabihullah Mujahid told the New York Times.

He added that the Taliban had stopped attacking US and Nato forces after they agreed in February to a phased troop withdrawal and to lift sanctions. In return, the Taliban said they would not allow extremist groups to operate in areas they control.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53204747
*shrug* As you say, hardly the first time one of them offered Afghan bounties on the other. and it's not like the US wouldn't like a foreign sounding distraction.
This coming from the country that actually did fund the mujahideen during the first Afghanistan Proxy War against Russians which led to the formation of the Taliban.

Pot kettle black.
Reply 3
Original post by DiddyDec
This coming from the country that actually did fund the mujahideen during the first Afghanistan Proxy War against Russians which led to the formation of the Taliban.

Pot kettle black.

Very well put.
The true irony is, and one most people seem to have forgotten, is that it was Russia, India and Iran who waged the war against the Taliban and Jihadists before the US decided it was fashionable. As far as shamelessness goes the Pentagon takes the biscuit in that neck of the woods.
Never mind the amusing irony expressed by this billboard they had to put up :lol:
Stinger.jpg
Reply 4
It is both obvious that it is something they would do, and obvious that it is something they would deny having done.

That it may have happened isn't really the story. It's that they appear to have been caught doing it and instead of responding, the US has accepted it and rolled over.
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Original post by Drewski
It is both obvious that it is something they would do, and obvious that it is something they would deny having done.

That it may have happened isn't really the story. It's that they appear to have been caught doing it and instead of responding, the US has accepted it and rolled over.

I don't know, seems a lot of effort for something that would happen either way. It's not like the Afghans need an excuse to machine gun Americans after all.
Probably because they're up to something vaguely similar in Syria. Arming Russia's enemies and what not.
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Original post by Napp
I don't know, seems a lot of effort for something that would happen either way. It's not like the Afghans need an excuse to machine gun Americans after all.
Probably because they're up to something vaguely similar in Syria. Arming Russia's enemies and what not.

It's about adding that incentive. Did they need an excuse? No, but knowing that the risk they put themselves at is worth a certain amount of money helps.
And, as has been reported elsewhere, is Russian intelligence units that were doing this, they'd be getting the militants to target particular units, rather than just the enemy to their front.
learnyourlesson.jpg

You would think by down after years of this Russia gate you would all have learnt your leston?

But many media parrot it as fact, because it makes Trump look bad. Journalism is dead. NYT is good for wiping your arse with, that's about it.
Reply 8
Original post by Drewski
It is both obvious that it is something they would do, and obvious that it is something they would deny having done.

That it may have happened isn't really the story. It's that they appear to have been caught doing it and instead of responding, the US has accepted it and rolled over.

It's equally possible that it's false, and the US government is pushing the lie to distract the public from the mess they are making of their response to the pandemic at home. Textbook propaganda to create an perceived external enemy to distract from failings at home.
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Original post by karington
learnyourlesson.jpg

You would think by down after years of this Russia gate you would all have learnt your leston?

But many media parrot it as fact, because it makes Trump look bad. Journalism is dead. NYT is good for wiping your arse with, that's about it.

1. The current DNI came into the position after the briefing(s?) are alleged to have happened.
2. The DNI isn't the only source of intelligence briefings.
Original post by JWatch
It's equally possible that it's false, and the US government is pushing the lie to distract the public from the mess they are making of their response to the pandemic at home. Textbook propaganda to create an perceived external enemy to distract from failings at home.

So you're suggesting that Trump himself is pushing this..? Something that makes him look bad and suggests he's acting like a traitor, to distract from something else that makes him look bad and incompetent..?

Come up with a conspiracy, by all means, but at least try to make some ****ing sense...
Original post by Drewski
So you're suggesting that Trump himself is pushing this..? Something that makes him look bad and suggests he's acting like a traitor, to distract from something else that makes him look bad and incompetent..?

Come up with a conspiracy, by all means, but at least try to make some ****ing sense...

Actually I can see Trump doing that, he's not known for making sense and saying SENSIBLE things.
Wow... no wonder old people were rifles were able to give US soldiers a hard time...

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