UK £ now regarded as 'emerging market' currency

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No. Remainers chose to wreck the economy by trying to impede the UK’s exit measures. If remainers worked well with Brexiteers, maybe the EU would have responded properly during the negotiations.
If the only issue was remainers 'impeding the exit measures', why do we not have a trade deal all sorted now that Johnson has a huge majority, and so can negotiate (essentially) how he wants?
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If the only issue was remainers 'impeding the exit measures', why do we not have a trade deal all sorted now that Johnson has a huge majority, and so can negotiate (essentially) how he wants?
That is what he is doing. The media tried to bully him to extend the transition period by the 30th June due date because of Covid and it was shut down. Now the EU are back to the table and there are talks of a deal coming by October. Imagine a strong Brexit Parliament took over from Cameron in 2016.
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In the eyes of international finance, Sterling is now the currency of an emerging market, such as a developing world economy.
https://www.ft.com/content/4fd04fd9-...1-97466f226159

Our descent into oblivion is progressing nicely. :sad:
we wil lsoon achieve parity with the dong :emo:
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we wil lsoon achieve parity with the dong :emo:
Italy might let us use the Lira, it's not needed there any more.
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No. Remainers chose to wreck the economy by trying to impede the UK’s exit measures. If remainers worked well with Brexiteers, maybe the EU would have responded properly during the negotiations.
Yeah its remainers fault the global community has little - too - no faith in the brexit project :rolleyes:.

The fact of the matter is you're blaming people for your own errors in judgement.
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Yeah its remainers fault the global community has little - too - no faith in the brexit project :rolleyes:.

The fact of the matter is you're blaming people for your own errors in judgement.
It’s a matter of fact that all actions taken have an effect. So in a way he is right.

What you two don’t agree on is to what extent surely.
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Yeah its remainers fault the global community has little - too - no faith in the brexit project :rolleyes:.

The fact of the matter is you're blaming people for your own errors in judgement.
The global community don't believe in anything that will affect their pocket. The global community went crazy when Trump cancelled the US TTIP trade negotiations with the EU. When Trump wanted to renegotiate NAFTA, they said it could not be done.

If Remainers chose to support their country rather than their ideology, we may have left in March 2019 and had one year to adjust before Covid. Instead, they sought to derail the project by working against the will of the people.
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The global community don't believe in anything that will affect their pocket. The global community went crazy when Trump cancelled the US TTIP trade negotiations with the EU. When Trump wanted to renegotiate NAFTA, they said it could not be done.
Er?
No, most people were, at best, ambivalent that got canned.
It wasnt done :lol: Nothing changed bar the name and a couple of irrelevant little paragraphs.
If Remainers chose to support their country rather than their ideology, we may have left in March 2019 and had one year to adjust before Covid. Instead, they sought to derail the project by working against the will of the people.
Nee noor nee noor, irony police :rofl:
It really is quite impressive your ability to be able to say such manifest claptrap with a straight face. Especially given the Soviet undertones.
Either way, i have no particular interest in listening to your hollow sound bites on the matter. Adieu.
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It’s a matter of fact that all actions taken have an effect. So in a way he is right.

What you two don’t agree on is to what extent surely.
Indeed. Given his position is 'it is all entirely and indisputably remainers fault' though it's rather hard to do anything but dismiss him.
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Er?
No, most people were, at best, ambivalent that got canned.
It wasnt done :lol: Nothing changed bar the name and a couple of irrelevant little paragraphs.

Nee noor nee noor, irony police :rofl:
It really is quite impressive your ability to be able to say such manifest claptrap with a straight face. Especially given the Soviet undertones.
Either way, i have no particular interest in listening to your hollow sound bites on the matter. Adieu.
The point was that any change in structure often draw groans and a desire to prevent it from happening.

It is fine to agree to disagree. The good thing is that we have left the EU, so remainers can continue to cry about the demise of their lovely european project. Time to focus on building the United Kingdom.
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The point was that any change in structure often draw groans and a desire to prevent it from happening.
Given it was wrong...
It is fine to agree to disagree. The good thing is that we have left the EU, so remainers can continue to cry about the demise of their lovely european project. Time to focus on building the United Kingdom.
You havent said anything to 'disagree' with. You have never presented any argument bar 'eu bad' and some odd propaganda sound bites.
Not sure if you're aware of this but the EU still exists...?
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Given it was wrong...

You havent said anything to 'disagree' with. You have never presented any argument bar 'eu bad' and some odd propaganda sound bites.
Not sure if you're aware of this but the EU still exists...?
It was not wrong. Trump cancelled TTIP with the EU. Go and read up on it.

Yes, the EU exists but we wont be part of their failed project.
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It was not wrong. Trump cancelled TTIP with the EU. Go and read up on it.
Sigh.
Yes, the EU exists but we wont be part of their failed project.
Go buy a dictionary wired.
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Sigh.

Go buy a dictionary wired.
Ok.
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That is what he is doing. The media tried to bully him to extend the transition period by the 30th June due date because of Covid and it was shut down. Now the EU are back to the table and there are talks of a deal coming by October. Imagine a strong Brexit Parliament took over from Cameron in 2016.
That is why both last week and this week the talks ended early with no announced progress.
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That is why both last week and this week the talks ended early with no announced progress.
The EU are not daft, there will be progress. Now they know there is no extension, they have to decide whether to continue playing the game or give the UK an actual deal. If they don't give the deal then Merkel has to defend her actions to German car manufacturers or Macron to French farmers. They are all politicians are accountable to their people.
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The EU are not daft, there will be progress. Now they know there is no extension, they have to decide whether to continue playing the game or give the UK an actual deal. If they don't give the deal then Merkel has to defend her actions to German car manufacturers or Macron to French farmers. They are all politicians are accountable to their people.
I'm curious, what makes you think VW is more important than the EU?
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I'm curious, what makes you think VW is more important than the EU?
Because money oils the wheels of power. Do we think that the EU would continue down the path of economic self-harm because they want to punish the UK? Of course not, once German and French businesses begin to feel the pinch, they would adjust accordingly. It is also the reason why they move carefully with China because we are dependent on China’s economic might.
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Because money oils the wheels of power. Do we think that the EU would continue down the path of economic self-harm because they want to punish the UK? Of course not, once German and French businesses begin to feel the pinch, they would adjust accordingly. It is also the reason why they move carefully with China because we are dependent on China’s economic might.
Oils, not controls. Especially when the wheels of power, in this case, answer to a higher calling.
I fear you misunderstand their apprehension.. they fear that bowing to the UK, for no reason, would be far more costly. Not unreasonable given they don't want the UK dumping **** into their markets at their expense.
They move carefully with China because the UK is dependent on them..?
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Oils, not controls. Especially when the wheels of power, in this case, answer to a higher calling.
I fear you misunderstand their apprehension.. they fear that bowing to the UK, for no reason, would be far more costly. Not unreasonable given they don't want the UK dumping **** into their markets at their expense.
They move carefully with China because the UK is dependent on them..?
Money controls the wheels of power. They are not bowing to the UK but trying to protect their own interests.

I don't think it has anything to do with the UK dumping **** into their markets. I think it probably has to do with what they can get from the UK without anything tangible in return.

They move carefully with China because the EU is dependent on China. Most of the West is dependent on China, despite the public pretence that we are not dependent.
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