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Uni rankings 2020/2021

What websites to trust and not ?

For example, on some websites university of Manchester is rank 17, and on some its 43 (the guardian) - close to royal holloway which is a joke (I went RH).

So I want to go to a prestigious business (High world ranking and U.K ranking) school which doesn’t cost £30k a year and has good courses like Manchester.

Let me know your thoughts.
For business, I tend to disagree the least with the FT and QS subject rankings for business schools/management.

But to make a long story short, the best business schools in the UK are LBS, Said, Judge, LSE, UCL, Imperial and Warwick (in no particular order for prestige). After this, there are strong business schools like Cass, Manchester, Hult, ESCP Europe's London campus and a few others, but they aren't as prestigious as the ones mentioned earlier.
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Original post by Diplomatic
For business, I tend to disagree the least with the FT and QS subject rankings for business schools/management.

But to make a long story short, the best business schools in the UK are LBS, Said, Judge, LSE, UCL, Imperial and Warwick (in no particular order). After this, there are strong business schools like Cass, Manchester, Hult, ESCP Europe's London campus and a few others, but they aren't as prestigious as the ones mentioned earlier.


But the courses on the top ones are so numbers based and lack variety. What’s LBS? Why is Warwick higher than Manchester ? Seems odd...
All rankings are subjective and not totally reliable. The international rankings favour older big city universities and for that reason I find them very unreliable. The guardian tends to fluctuate hugely year on year. The complete university guide and the Times guide tends to be the most reliable but again should be used with caution as there can only be small differences between quite large groups of universities. For example a university in say 6th place is basically of very similar standard to the one in 16th.
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Original post by swanseajack1
All rankings are subjective and not totally reliable. The international rankings favour older big city universities and for that reason I find them very unreliable. The guardian tends to fluctuate hugely year on year. The complete university guide and the Times guide tends to be the most reliable but again should be used with caution as there can only be small differences between quite large groups of universities. For example a university in say 6th place is basically of very similar standard to the one in 16th.


What would be your top 5 business schools in the U.K. ?
Original post by Dragon89
What would be your top 5 business schools in the U.K. ?

I think oxford, LSE, ucl and Warwick would have the top 4. I don’t think Cambridge does undergrad.

After that I’d say anywhere that asks for AAA or higher at A level has a shout at being 5th but idrk
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Original post by Dragon89
What would be your top 5 business schools in the U.K. ?

I dont think anyone is really qualified to decide that. If you wish to rake a ranking take the top 5 in the CUG but as said previously no ranking table is totally accurate
Original post by Dragon89
But the courses on the top ones are so numbers based and lack variety. What’s LBS? Why is Warwick higher than Manchester ? Seems odd...


If you want to pursue a degree that's less numerate and has more variety, you'll have to shop around and see what peaks your academic interest.

LBS = London Business School, widely considered the UK's most elite B-School.

Why any university with similar entry requirements is perceived as better than another is unknown to me, but I'm telling you the consensus amongst IB firms and elite strategy consultancies, which generally care the most where you went to uni.

Trust me, the top 7 schools aren't ambigious to people who you should care about impressing. They're the ones I mentioned before.

But, if you aren't interested in the most elite firms, you have plenty of other good universities to consider like St Andrews, Bath, Cass, Manchester, etc.

It'd be wrong to call them elite, but they're very good.
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I wouldn’t pay close attention to tables - mainly since the annoolxgy seems to be the older the university is the better it is - which is ridiculous.
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Original post by Diplomatic
If you want to pursue a degree that's less numerate and has more variety, you'll have to shop around and see what peaks your academic interest.

LBS = London Business School, widely considered the UK's most elite B-School.

Why any university with similar entry requirements is perceived as better than another is unknown to me, but I'm telling you the consensus amongst IB firms and elite strategy consultancies, which generally care the most where you went to uni.

Trust me, the top 7 schools aren't ambigious to people who you should care about impressing. They're the ones I mentioned before.

But, if you aren't interested in the most elite firms, you have plenty of other good universities to consider like St Andrews, Bath, Cass, Manchester, etc.

It'd be wrong to call them elite, but they're very good.


Original post by Diplomatic
If you want to pursue a degree that's less numerate and has more variety, you'll have to shop around and see what peaks your academic interest.

LBS = London Business School, widely considered the UK's most elite B-School.

Why any university with similar entry requirements is perceived as better than another is unknown to me, but I'm telling you the consensus amongst IB firms and elite strategy consultancies, which generally care the most where you went to uni.

Trust me, the top 7 schools aren't ambigious to people who you should care about impressing. They're the ones I mentioned before.

But, if you aren't interested in the most elite firms, you have plenty of other good universities to consider like St Andrews, Bath, Cass, Manchester, etc.

It'd be wrong to call them elite, but they're very good.


What do you mean about the top 7 unis being ambiguous? That didn’t make sense to me.
Original post by Dragon89
What do you mean about the top 7 unis being ambiguous? That didn’t make sense to me.


I'm saying there's an overwhelming consensus in the aforementioned industries that the top (prestigious/elite) business schools include LBS, Said, Judge, LSE, UCL, Imperial and Warwick in the UK.

If you ask for people's opinions on TSR or look at irresponsible league tables to understand the top 5 business schools from the perspective of their reputations at the most selective firms, and they aren't naming one of these 7, they're going against overwhelming consensus.

I'm not saying they have the best modules, student satisfaction and teaching quality, nor every firm's top choices for recruitment. But I am saying that they're very well known to be the most prestigious, which seemed to be what you cared most about in your original post.
Who makes the best/most reliable ranking for Law?
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Original post by Diplomatic
I'm saying there's an overwhelming consensus in the aforementioned industries that the top (prestigious/elite) business schools include LBS, Said, Judge, LSE, UCL, Imperial and Warwick in the UK.

If you ask for people's opinions on TSR or look at irresponsible league tables to understand the top 5 business schools from the perspective of their reputations at the most selective firms, and they aren't naming one of these 7, they're going against overwhelming consensus.

I'm not saying they have the best modules, student satisfaction and teaching quality, nor every firm's top choices for recruitment. But I am saying that they're very well known to be the most prestigious, which seemed to be what you cared most about in your original post.


Yes you are right. I am going after a masters because I don’t think my management degree from royal holloway will cut it. Especially because of fierce competition:
Original post by Dragon89
Yes you are right. I am going after a masters because I don’t think my management degree from royal holloway will cut it. Especially because of fierce competition:

Cut it with who?
Have you spoken to any employers about your plans? A masters straight after a BA/BSc isn’t generally a good idea for management unless you want to specialise in a specific topic.

Get some experience
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Original post by PQ
Cut it with who?
Have you spoken to any employers about your plans? A masters straight after a BA/BSc isn’t generally a good idea for management unless you want to specialise in a specific topic.

Get some experience


A degree from royal Holloway in business, I know they’ll hire the person with masters from UCL or LSE. Wow, we never get told this stuff. Guess more work to do.

And I generally agree with your statement, I think it’s just because of covid and me not applying for graduate positions before.
Original post by Dragon89
But the courses on the top ones are so numbers based and lack variety. What’s LBS? Why is Warwick higher than Manchester ? Seems odd...


London Business School, probably the most prestigious business school in the UK, as for the others including Warwick they're all highly targeted schools and Warwick does continuously rank in the top 3 in economics and business.
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Original post by leobrave
London Business School, probably the most prestigious business school in the UK, as for the others including Warwick they're all highly targeted schools and Warwick does continuously rank in the top 3 in economics and business.


According to which site ? Thanks
Original post by Dragon89
According to which site ? Thanks

the economist, business weekly, financial times, forbes.
times higher education also has LBS as producing the most top CEO's along with Harvard, Penn, Oxford
Additionally, you can look at the alumni such as Jim Ratcliffe and many others from LBS. The prices for the degree also reflect the salary you're likely to make after with LBS being the most expensive postgraduate university in the UK with an MBA costing £90k and degrees like finance and management around £33k-45k
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Original post by leobrave
the economist, business weekly, financial times, forbes.
times higher education also has LBS as producing the most top CEO's along with Harvard, Penn, Oxford
Additionally, you can look at the alumni such as Jim Ratcliffe and many others from LBS. The prices for the degree also reflect the salary you're likely to make after with LBS being the most expensive postgraduate university in the UK with an MBA costing £90k and degrees like finance and management around £33k-45k

This is insane! Wow. I recently started looking into master, and honestly it was the first time I heard about LBS. Looking into the entry requirements, I couldn't see them on their page. Could you let me know if they are maybe firsts or 2:1? Maybe the 90k means they are open to applications because maybe not a lot of people apply ?
Original post by Dragon89
This is insane! Wow. I recently started looking into master, and honestly it was the first time I heard about LBS. Looking into the entry requirements, I couldn't see them on their page. Could you let me know if they are maybe firsts or 2:1? Maybe the 90k means they are open to applications because maybe not a lot of people apply ?

I think some entry requirements are 2:1 minimum although most applicants obviously have 1st class degree's as it is highly competitive, as for the price of £90k , its because the MBA at LBS opens many doors from just networking with your peers alone. All the applicants to MBA have like 7 years of experience at top firms, whereas their other Master's such as finance and management are more suited to recent graduates with little or no experience.

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