Is cheating now normalized?

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Having a debate with my friend.
I said no, and she said yes it is really widespread now.
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Normalized as in common.
*Relationships wise.
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I don’t think it is because nowadays you see so many people getting called out for cheating on social media and getting shamed and bullied for it. But then again some people think it’s ‘cool’ to cheat.
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Oh I thought you were on about academic cheating.

I think it is normalised insofar as people are open about having been cheated on, but I think that is because breaking up is less stigmatised. I don't think there are many out there who would defend the practice.
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A few years ago the Conservative Party would never have considered a serial cheater to be their leader. So if they consider it acceptable, that suggests normalisation.
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It's hard to tell really, because most don't air their dirty laundry in public and even if you ask online people lie a lot.
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A few years ago the Conservative Party would never have considered a serial cheater to be their leader. So if they consider it acceptable, that suggests normalisation.
I think plenty of prime ministers have had affairs in the past, but it was easier to keep things out of the public eye. Lloyd George, for exampl https://www.standard.co.uk/standard-...r-6885328.html had numerous affairs and illegitimate children
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in my opinion no, because it's always been subjective to the situation and based on the individual.

back then there wasn't much option, particularly for women, if they were cheated on.
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I think plenty of prime ministers have had affairs in the past, but it was easier to keep things out of the public eye. Lloyd George, for exampl https://www.standard.co.uk/standard-...r-6885328.html had numerous affairs and illegitimate children
David Lloyd George was never elected as leader of the Liberal Party. There have been allegations about Tony Blair and Wendy Deng, and were about Harold Wilson, but none others of any Prime Minister since the war. Except for Mr Johnson.
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A few years ago the Conservative Party would never have considered a serial cheater to be their leader. So if they consider it acceptable, that suggests normalisation.
Didn't Major have an affair with Currie prior to becoming PM?

Edit: And yes, I'm well aware it was only discovered afterwards. But I'd think the past exploits of Tory grandees being exposed would have gone some way towards normalising it in the Tory party, and I doubt this happened overnight during the 2019 leadership election.
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I think more people do cheat but a lot of people aren't always inclined to the long term relationship and don't make that clear or don't understand that until they get into a relationship . Not justifying it, I wouldn't date someone who was known to cheat but I guess people need to be upfront whether they can see themselves in a monogamous relationship
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(Original post by Synergy_)
Having a debate with my friend.
I said no, and she said yes it is really widespread now.
Thoughts?

Normalized as in common.
*Relationships wise.
When I lived in Korea, one of the classes that I taught was to a group of women aged 20-30. One conversation jump-off point I once used was, “All Korean men cheat on their wives.” They all said, “Yes.” No one in the room would argue the contrary because they all knew that it was true. Their justification for not being upset about this was that Korean men cheat on their partners with professional women, not random women they meet in clubs etc. so there is no chance that the affair would lead to an actual relationship, and that there is no chance that they would contract an STD because professional women get routinely tested.


I’m not sure about western culture, but cheating definitely seemed normalized according to my students.

At the time I was working for L’Oreal, the French cosmetics company. It was just an English conversation class they offered to their employees. All my students were women in their 20s.
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it might be more common as there's more access to it now, even just in terms of the internet. i mean there's actual websites for those who are looking to cheat on their partner.

also probably helps that there's less social stigma than in the past and if you cheat, you won't be stoned to death and your friends will still be friends with you. there's also options of divorce for both men and women, so cheating may not seem as risky. but we probably don't have real statistics of cheating from the past and those who did in the past would be more inclined to lie about it.
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(Original post by Synergy_)
Having a debate with my friend.
I said no, and she said yes it is really widespread now.
Thoughts?

Normalized as in common.
*Relationships wise.
Yes, I think many more people are open about having cheated or being cheated upon.

There's a thread in relationships called "my girlfriend forgives me for cheating, but won't have sex anymore". A guy had sex with his flatmate everyday for 3 months, when his girlfriend went abroad for some humanitarian work. When his flatmate told his girlfriend upon her return he admitted to a handful of times. He won't tell her that it was everyday and argues vehemently that it's the right thing to do. They're still together.
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Yes, I think many more people are open about having cheated or being cheated upon.

There's a thread in relationships called "my girlfriend forgives me for cheating, but won't have sex anymore". A guy had sex with his flatmate everyday for 3 months, when his girlfriend went abroad for some humanitarian work. When his flatmate told his girlfriend upon her return he admitted to a handful of times. He won't tell her that it was everyday and argues vehemently that it's the right thing to do. They're still together.
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Do you mean within a context of extra-marital affairs, involving secrecy and using dishonesty to conceal from the spouse/family members? :confused:
Like the antics that Ashley Madison specialise in.
Or unmarried persons that have limited enthusiasm for monogamous sexual exclusivity, don't share this with their casual gf/bf and secretively get involved with third parties.
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I spent hours trying to persuade him to tell her everything that happened.
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It's hard to tell really, because most don't air their dirty laundry in public and even if you ask online people lie a lot.
Exactly. People say "oh I would never do that" and then they go and do it. People want to think they have good morals, but when temptation comes along, they cannot help themselves. They are hypocrites.

If I meet a guy in real life or on the internet and they say something, I fact check it and in nearly all cases they are telling lies.

I am really sorry that cheating is so prevalent nowadays. I think the internet also makes it easier to cheat. There's just so much choice out there and on websites you can be anonymous
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I think plenty of prime ministers have had affairs in the past, but it was easier to keep things out of the public eye. Lloyd George, for exampl https://www.standard.co.uk/standard-...r-6885328.html had numerous affairs and illegitimate children
Good point. PMs can cheat, as they meet a lot of people, and power is an aphrodisiac. They do it because they can do it, no matter how ugly and unattractive (and yes, Boris, I mean you!) The difference between Lloyd George and Boris is that in those days everything was hushed up. Now it's open season on public figures.
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I dont see how cheating can ever be normalised, in my book its wrong period.
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Didn't Major have an affair with Currie prior to becoming PM?

Edit: And yes, I'm well aware it was only discovered afterwards. But I'd think the past exploits of Tory grandees being exposed would have gone some way towards normalising it in the Tory party, and I doubt this happened overnight during the 2019 leadership election.
Yes, he did. And Major was the one who set up the policy "back to basics" which urged MPs to clean up their own morals. I can remember the newspapers hinting at an affair between Major and a catering manager. There was no proof and i think he may have won damages. Whereas all that time he was sticking it to Edwina Currie, when his wife was much more attractive looking, and not a tenth as scary and deluded.
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