Sunak is trying to bankrupt an already bankrupt country!

Has Sunak gone mad? Where is the money for all these freebies coming from? You have millions of economically inactive people in this country who are bleeding the country dry year on year! Even before the pandemic with Brexit on the horizon the economy was destined for the trash can and now with all these giveaways who is going to pay for them at the end of the day?

Furlough is just Welfare V2, it should never have been introduced in the first place. No other country has replicated such a generous scheme. All those people on the beaches and parks oblivious to social distancing openly boasted to the media we're on furlough what else you expect us to do?! Stay at home perhaps as the guidance expected you to do.

Also what about that elephant in the room where billions are slurged to fund those who cant be bothered to work, namely welfare?

Rather than splurge billions on discounted wagamama sunak should minimalise or abolish large sections of welfare altogether. The UK welfare budget is 200 billion+ imagine if that was bared down 90-95%+ how much that would save and enable some kind of sanity to the UK budget vs endless borrowing to fund idleness.

What percentage of the UK's adult population is dependent on the welfare state? The welfare state is a big part of British family life, with 20.3 million families receiving some kind of benefit (64% of all families) as per research done for the Guardian, that is shocking in itself.

Look at the list of possible welfare candy on offer:
Jobseeker's Allowance (JSA)
Employment and Support Allowance (ESA)
Income Support.
Housing Benefit.
Council Tax Support/Reduction.
Support with Mortgage Interest (SMI)
Personal Independence Payment (PIP)
Disability Living Allowance (DLA)
Universal Credit
Clothing Grants
Food vouchers
Carers allowance
Tax credit
Incapacity benefit
Maternity Grant
Child benefit/Child tax credit
There are more this just a sample of the benefits buffet on offer..

Sunak should scrap the lot of it and get these lazy sods back to work. Giving welfare to the idle means they have no idea of the meaning of money or the idea you should work and earn your keep. Why should they when they know other fools work on there behalf? Ditch the lot Sunak if you tell someone right no welfare heres a job, your choice you think they are going to keep saying I am too depressed to work?

My friend is a GP he says around 50% of the people who visit are simply trying to game the welfare system and maximise the amount of free money they can get out of the system with pseudo illnesses like fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue and other illnesses that cant be proved. Same for being too depressed to work, another cop out. Also he gets at least 10 requests a day for letter request so they can scrounge a bigger council house. Why bother getting mortgage and working hard to get a bigger house when you can simply go and moan to the council for a bigger one instead? Hes not surprised such a huge number dont bother turning up for assessments he says they either realise the game is up and dont bother or they were too drunk on the day and forgot!

Sunak the only people benefiting from welfare are the likes of Netflix, Sky and the local off licenses. As exposed last week in Nottingham those pitching up to the food bank driving a mercedez while holding a brand new iphone show that the welfare system needs to be scrapped once and for all. Only if you stop giving other peoples money to the bone idle will they be incentivised to get off their butt and do something once in their life. At the minute the welfare gang are kinda bored so now represent a large chunk of the Tiktok community making videos and asking for more money from fools that donate!

I saw an advert on a bus the other day saying drive this bus get 23k. Thats 23k minus tax, NI, mortgage, council tax etc etc

Am surprised there isnt an advert saying do f all and get the equivalent of a 40k+ salaried job for doing absolutely sod all other than filling in a few welfare forms and sitting back!
Thing is they dont need an advert do they given that millions of households are doing it already as ONS stats prove year on year.

Sunak, ditch welfare thats the only kick up the backside that is going to force these idle sods back into work. Why have we got 3 million Eastern Europeans doing unskilled work here because local idle Brits find a combo of welfare, netflix and beer an easier proposition? Stop the gravy train scrap welfare and furlough which is just another name for welfare and get these idle millions off their backside. You wouldnt need to import labour if you didnt have such a large % of the population doing f all apart from full time benefit claiming.

Has Sunak gone mad? Where is the money for all these freebies coming from? You have millions of economically inactive people in this country who are bleeding the country dry year on year! Even before the pandemic with Brexit on the horizon the economy was destined for the trash can and now with all these giveaways who is going to pay for them at the end of the day?

Furlough is just Welfare V2, it should never have been introduced in the first place. No other country has replicated such a generous scheme. All those people on the beaches and parks oblivious to social distancing openly boasted to the media we're on furlough what else you expect us to do?! Stay at home perhaps as the guidance expected you to do.

Also what about that elephant in the room where billions are slurged to fund those who cant be bothered to work, namely welfare?

Rather than splurge billions on discounted wagamama sunak should minimalise or abolish large sections of welfare altogether. The UK welfare budget is 200 billion+ imagine if that was bared down 90-95%+ how much that would save and enable some kind of sanity to the UK budget vs endless borrowing to fund idleness.

What percentage of the UK's adult population is dependent on the welfare state? The welfare state is a big part of British family life, with 20.3 million families receiving some kind of benefit (64% of all families) as per research done for the Guardian, that is shocking in itself.

Look at the list of possible welfare candy on offer:
Jobseeker's Allowance (JSA)
Employment and Support Allowance (ESA)
Income Support.
Housing Benefit.
Council Tax Support/Reduction.
Support with Mortgage Interest (SMI)
Personal Independence Payment (PIP)
Disability Living Allowance (DLA)
Universal Credit
Clothing Grants
Food vouchers
Carers allowance
Tax credit
Incapacity benefit
Maternity Grant
Child benefit/Child tax credit
There are more this just a sample of the benefits buffet on offer..

Sunak should scrap the lot of it and get these lazy sods back to work. Giving welfare to the idle means they have no idea of the meaning of money or the idea you should work and earn your keep. Why should they when they know other fools work on there behalf? Ditch the lot Sunak if you tell someone right no welfare heres a job, your choice you think they are going to keep saying I am too depressed to work?

My friend is a GP he says around 50% of the people who visit are simply trying to game the welfare system and maximise the amount of free money they can get out of the system with pseudo illnesses like fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue and other illnesses that cant be proved. Same for being too depressed to work, another cop out. Also he gets at least 10 requests a day for letter request so they can scrounge a bigger council house. Why bother getting mortgage and working hard to get a bigger house when you can simply go and moan to the council for a bigger one instead? Hes not surprised such a huge number dont bother turning up for assessments he says they either realise the game is up and dont bother or they were too drunk on the day and forgot!

Sunak the only people benefiting from welfare are the likes of Netflix, Sky and the local off licenses. As exposed last week in Nottingham those pitching up to the food bank driving a mercedez while holding a brand new iphone show that the welfare system needs to be scrapped once and for all. Only if you stop giving other peoples money to the bone idle will they be incentivised to get off their butt and do something once in their life. At the minute the welfare gang are kinda bored so now represent a large chunk of the Tiktok community making videos and asking for more money from fools that donate!

I saw an advert on a bus the other day saying drive this bus get 23k. Thats 23k minus tax, NI, mortgage, council tax etc etc

Am surprised there isnt an advert saying do f all and get the equivalent of a 40k+ salaried job for doing absolutely sod all other than filling in a few welfare forms and sitting back!
Thing is they dont need an advert do they given that millions of households are doing it already as ONS stats prove year on year.

Sunak, ditch welfare thats the only kick up the backside that is going to force these idle sods back into work. Why have we got 3 million Eastern Europeans doing unskilled work here because local idle Brits find a combo of welfare, netflix and beer an easier proposition? Stop the gravy train scrap welfare and furlough which is just another name for welfare and get these idle millions off their backside. You wouldnt need to import labour if you didnt have such a large % of the population doing f all apart from full time benefit claiming.

Was away for a few days working, wonder whats the point paying tax when those on welfare pay zero tax and are better off for it!

1) Where is the money for all these freebies coming from?

2) The UK welfare budget is 200 billion+ imagine if that was bared down 90-95%+

3) Look at the list of possible welfare candy on offer:
Jobseeker's Allowance (JSA)
Employment and Support Allowance (ESA)
Income Support.
Housing Benefit.
Council Tax Support/Reduction.
Support with Mortgage Interest (SMI)
Personal Independence Payment (PIP)
Disability Living Allowance (DLA)
Universal Credit
Clothing Grants
Food vouchers
Carers allowance
Tax credit
Incapacity benefit
Maternity Grant
Child benefit/Child tax credit
There are more this just a sample of the benefits buffet on offer..

Sunak should scrap the lot of it and get these lazy sods back to work.

4) Am surprised there isnt an advert saying do f all and get the equivalent of a 40k+ salaried job for doing absolutely sod all other than filling in a few welfare forms and sitting back!

Why have we got 3 million Eastern Europeans doing unskilled work here because local idle Brits find a combo of welfare, netflix and beer an easier proposition?

This part of your rant isn't wrong to be fair.

1) So you've not heard of QE then?

2) Imagine if State Pension was abolished you mean?

3) When compiling your long list you forgot 'State Pension' which makes up £100bn+ of the £200bn+

4) Is that because you can't get welfare to equate to a pretax salary of £40k+? On another thread I went through the maths with you even assuming the salaried employee lived in high tax Scotland and had no personal allowance. You didn't reply....

Why should QE be done to print money to fund the welfare gangs who choose not to work? Consistently around 3 million household where noone works.

The benefits cap is a myth as there are many exclusions so a little of depression, fibro, back pain and other bs medical conditions means you can claim even more free cash getting welfare of 30k+ doesnt take much effort if you know how to fill forms in and lay on a good sob story to DWP so yes that equates to a 40k salary pre-tax where someone has the hassle of working where those on welfare have the hassle of choosing which netflix series to binge watch or which flavor vape to try.

Only fools work in the UK and bigger fools work and pay tax in the UK to fund the idle feckless millions that roost here.

Has Sunak gone mad? Where is the money for all these freebies coming from? You have millions of economically inactive people in this country who are bleeding the country dry year on year! Even before the pandemic with Brexit on the horizon the economy was destined for the trash can and now with all these giveaways who is going to pay for them at the end of the day?

Furlough is just Welfare V2, it should never have been introduced in the first place. No other country has replicated such a generous scheme. All those people on the beaches and parks oblivious to social distancing openly boasted to the media we're on furlough what else you expect us to do?! Stay at home perhaps as the guidance expected you to do.

Also what about that elephant in the room where billions are slurged to fund those who cant be bothered to work, namely welfare?

Rather than splurge billions on discounted wagamama sunak should minimalise or abolish large sections of welfare altogether. The UK welfare budget is 200 billion+ imagine if that was bared down 90-95%+ how much that would save and enable some kind of sanity to the UK budget vs endless borrowing to fund idleness.

What percentage of the UK's adult population is dependent on the welfare state? The welfare state is a big part of British family life, with 20.3 million families receiving some kind of benefit (64% of all families) as per research done for the Guardian, that is shocking in itself.

Look at the list of possible welfare candy on offer:
Jobseeker's Allowance (JSA)
Employment and Support Allowance (ESA)
Income Support.
Housing Benefit.
Council Tax Support/Reduction.
Support with Mortgage Interest (SMI)
Personal Independence Payment (PIP)
Disability Living Allowance (DLA)
Universal Credit
Clothing Grants
Food vouchers
Carers allowance
Tax credit
Incapacity benefit
Maternity Grant
Child benefit/Child tax credit
There are more this just a sample of the benefits buffet on offer..

Sunak should scrap the lot of it and get these lazy sods back to work. Giving welfare to the idle means they have no idea of the meaning of money or the idea you should work and earn your keep. Why should they when they know other fools work on there behalf? Ditch the lot Sunak if you tell someone right no welfare heres a job, your choice you think they are going to keep saying I am too depressed to work?

My friend is a GP he says around 50% of the people who visit are simply trying to game the welfare system and maximise the amount of free money they can get out of the system with pseudo illnesses like fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue and other illnesses that cant be proved. Same for being too depressed to work, another cop out. Also he gets at least 10 requests a day for letter request so they can scrounge a bigger council house. Why bother getting mortgage and working hard to get a bigger house when you can simply go and moan to the council for a bigger one instead? Hes not surprised such a huge number dont bother turning up for assessments he says they either realise the game is up and dont bother or they were too drunk on the day and forgot!

Sunak the only people benefiting from welfare are the likes of Netflix, Sky and the local off licenses. As exposed last week in Nottingham those pitching up to the food bank driving a mercedez while holding a brand new iphone show that the welfare system needs to be scrapped once and for all. Only if you stop giving other peoples money to the bone idle will they be incentivised to get off their butt and do something once in their life. At the minute the welfare gang are kinda bored so now represent a large chunk of the Tiktok community making videos and asking for more money from fools that donate!

I saw an advert on a bus the other day saying drive this bus get 23k. Thats 23k minus tax, NI, mortgage, council tax etc etc

Am surprised there isnt an advert saying do f all and get the equivalent of a 40k+ salaried job for doing absolutely sod all other than filling in a few welfare forms and sitting back!
Thing is they dont need an advert do they given that millions of households are doing it already as ONS stats prove year on year.

Sunak, ditch welfare thats the only kick up the backside that is going to force these idle sods back into work. Why have we got 3 million Eastern Europeans doing unskilled work here because local idle Brits find a combo of welfare, netflix and beer an easier proposition? Stop the gravy train scrap welfare and furlough which is just another name for welfare and get these idle millions off their backside. You wouldnt need to import labour if you didnt have such a large % of the population doing f all apart from full time benefit claiming.

First of all: Don't disrespect Sunak. And second of all: You're right about benefits.

But seriously, what is the alternative? We could do India where orphan kids sleep in stations alone, begging and pick pocketing for a living, or we could do the US where masses of people have no access to healthcare and benefits are sporadic and variable but where thankfully society give sufficiently to charities to bail those unfortunate enough to fall on hard times out.

There are countries where there isn't half the handouts mentioned by the OP, and none of this happens. Particularly the Eastern Europe EU member states.

There are also countries where there's even less help from the state, and the situation isn't as bad as in India (where it is so bad, likely because of extreme overpopulation in some regions).

In China for example there are no handouts for unemplyed, but on the other hand they don't tax street trade (not directly).

Instead of forcing people to register businesses, buy expensive cash registers, and pay income taxes, and then spend money on administration that would count all the taxes involved, it's just legal to sell things and food on many streets. People can work, spending money only on their stalls and products they sell, the country doesn't have to pay them any handouts as in big cities they can earn quite enough money on their own, and the state gets some VAT income anyway, as unregistered businesses can't deduct VAT when they buy stuff they're going to sell at the street.

I personally think that state pensions for retired and permanently disabled, and temporary help for unemployed (given they worked before in their life), would have been enough.

It would also be nice if the UK stopped treating the people of Northern Ireland like second-class citizens. They get only half the postgraduate loan you can get in England, and it doesn't even cover university fees, like government didn't want them to study or sth.

Are you really wishing we were like Eastern Europe of China? My goodness! I don't think you know quite how good we have it!

I've spent most of my life in Eastern Europe, most of the handouts mentioned be the OP are not availalbe out there and there isn't any problem with orphants on the streets.
Retired people get state pensions, disabled people get state pensions, ill people get state pensions untill they recover, unemployed job seekers get pensions for a few months (if they worked before) that's pretty much all you can get.

Speaking of the Chinese example, it was just to illustrate how can you adress the same problem with different solutions. The Western solution by now apparently is to give money to those who don't work. The Chinese solution is to make starting businesses easy even for those who have little to no money for a start.

So why hasn't Sunsk messed over pensioners already?

You realise Sunk stood on a triple lock platform right?

So how is Eastern Europe different to the UK?

And just how do the Chinese make it easier? Do they ignore trading standards and copyright allowing counterfit and dangerous goods to be sold? Do they ignore employment laws allowing people to be hired on terrible terms?

Well, according to your belief people should be dying at streets, which isn't happening.