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So I will be starting sixth form in September and I was set on taking Maths, Economics and Psychology however I'm having second thoughts about Maths because I'm worried that I won't be able to get a high enough grade (I got a 7 at GCSE) and so I'm toying with the idea of replacing Maths with Sociology (a subject which I'm considering as a degree) so I will be doing Economics, Psychology and Sociology which honestly sounds a lot more engaging.

I am aware that none of these subjects are 'facilitating' but as far as I know people are recommended to take facilitating subjects if they are unsure on what to do or they want to keep their options open. But if I am likely to go down the social sciences route, is it really a problem that none of my subjects are 'facilitating'?

How much weight should I put on getting the best grades possible and how much should I put on the utility or the academic reputation of the subject chosen? Would taking 3 non-facilitating subjects limit my chances of getting into a Russell Group uni like Bristol, Bath or Cardiff?
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So I will be starting sixth form in September and I was set on taking Maths, Economics and Psychology however I'm having second thoughts about Maths because I'm worried that I won't be able to get a high enough grade (I got a 7 at GCSE) and so I'm toying with the idea of replacing Maths with Sociology (a subject which I'm considering as a degree) so I will be doing Economics, Psychology and Sociology which honestly sounds a lot more engaging.

I am aware that none of these subjects are 'facilitating' but as far as I know people are recommended to take facilitating subjects if they are unsure on what to do or they want to keep their options open. But if I am likely to go down the social sciences route, is it really a problem that none of my subjects are 'facilitating'?

How much weight should I put on getting the best grades possible and how much should I put on the utility or the academic reputation of the subject chosen? Would taking 3 non-facilitating subjects limit my chances of getting into a Russell Group uni like Bristol, Bath or Cardiff?
If you want to do sociology more than maths at uni then do that. Otherwise you’ll get lower grades and hate sixth form.

Also what do you mean by facilitating in terms of subjects?
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Have you checked entry requirements for course you're considering?
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'Facilitating subjects' aren't really a thing any more - most unis simply list required subjects (ie, say, maths for econ). I would look at the uni websites for the degrees you would want to do, if you meet the criteria you're golden (ie Psych, Sociology, Econ is as good as Psych, Maths, Bio if the only required subject is Psych). Some psychology courses will prefer two sciences, though.
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Also what do you mean by facilitating in terms of subjects?
There is a list created by mostly RG unis of subjects that are most commonly required for degree courses. They include Maths, Sciences, English Lit, Geography, History and Languages. Some people like to put a lot of weight on them but others say they don't really matter that much.
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Have you checked entry requirements for course you're considering?
Yeah most courses for Sociology don't require any specific subjects but they might say that you need to have an essay-based subject or something. Stuff like Economics usually requires Maths but I'm not sure I really want to do Econ as a degree.
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Yeah most courses for Sociology don't require any specific subjects but they might say that you need to have an essay-based subject or something. Stuff like Economics usually requires Maths but I'm not sure I really want to do Econ as a degree.
I don't think it really matters what a-levels you do then.
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(Original post by ryanfeltham)
There is a list created by mostly RG unis of subjects that are most commonly required for degree courses. They include Maths, Sciences, English Lit, Geography, History and Languages. Some people like to put a lot of weight on them but others say they don't really matter that much.
As a user above has said, i’m pretty sure that universities have just got “recommended subjects” rather than facilitating subjects now
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/schoo...evel-list/amp/
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'Facilitating subjects' aren't really a thing any more - most unis simply list required subjects (ie, say, maths for econ). I would look at the uni websites for the degrees you would want to do, if you meet the criteria you're golden (ie Psych, Sociology, Econ is as good as Psych, Maths, Bio if the only required subject is Psych). Some psychology courses will prefer two sciences, though.
Thanks, I was unsure whether that was something universities still cared about. Most of the courses I want to do don't have any required subjects.
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Thanks, I was unsure whether that was something universities still cared about. Most of the courses I want to do don't have any required subjects.
You should be fine then. Good luck
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(Original post by ryanfeltham)
So I will be starting sixth form in September and I was set on taking Maths, Economics and Psychology however I'm having second thoughts about Maths because I'm worried that I won't be able to get a high enough grade (I got a 7 at GCSE) and so I'm toying with the idea of replacing Maths with Sociology (a subject which I'm considering as a degree) so I will be doing Economics, Psychology and Sociology which honestly sounds a lot more engaging.

I am aware that none of these subjects are 'facilitating' but as far as I know people are recommended to take facilitating subjects if they are unsure on what to do or they want to keep their options open. But if I am likely to go down the social sciences route, is it really a problem that none of my subjects are 'facilitating'?

How much weight should I put on getting the best grades possible and how much should I put on the utility or the academic reputation of the subject chosen? Would taking 3 non-facilitating subjects limit my chances of getting into a Russell Group uni like Bristol, Bath or Cardiff?
You can definitely get a high Alevel grade with a 7! If you're willing to put in the hard work and do practise questions regularly, you're GCSE grade won't stand in your way! But if you know you'll enjoy sociology more, then pick it because you'll be more motivated to put the work in and revise and therefore get a higher grade.

If you're fairly certain you're going down the social sciences route, then I don't see why your choices should be a problem! Economics still has a good academic reputation as it is a relatively broader subject than accounting for example and psychology is seen as a respected science.
But make sure you check your course requirements to be sure!
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You'll be fine as those are universities preferred subjects. Facilitating subjects doesn't matter except Trinity College in Cambridge, who explicitly states it in their entry requirements. It helps if you are undecided on what to pick but you know what A levels you want to do so it doesnt really have a weighting in your decision. Your A levels are fine for social science as most social sciences dont have required A levels except Economics, which require A level Maths, and any economic courses like PPE (except Oxford but it's more better to have A level maths for more options in your course). Grades > Subjects anytime. If they wanted certain subjects, they will state it in their entry requirements for that certain course or in their general subject list (e.g. LSE does this). No this will not limit your chances. Also Bath is not a Russell group
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(Original post by becausethenight)
'Facilitating subjects' aren't really a thing any more - most unis simply list required subjects (ie, say, maths for econ). I would look at the uni websites for the degrees you would want to do, if you meet the criteria you're golden (ie Psych, Sociology, Econ is as good as Psych, Maths, Bio if the only required subject is Psych). Some psychology courses will prefer two sciences, though.
PRSOM. They only require one science btw (just wanted to add for psychology BSc, which is different to BA Psychology which doesnt require specific A levels since it's a social science)
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You can definitely get a high Alevel grade with a 7! If you're willing to put in the hard work and do practise questions regularly, you're GCSE grade won't stand in your way! But if you know you'll enjoy sociology more, then pick it because you'll be more motivated to put the work in and revise and therefore get a higher grade.

If you're fairly certain you're going down the social sciences route, then I don't see why your choices should be a problem! Economics still has a good academic reputation as it is a relatively broader subject than accounting for example and psychology is seen as a respected science.
But make sure you check your course requirements to be sure!
I've actually already done most of year 1 for a-level Maths (I'm restarting sixth form and picking different subjects) and I could manage fine but apparently year 2 is a lot harder - I was getting mostly B's and C's in class assessments. I'm just a lot more interested in Sociology so I think I would be able to cope better if things get hard (though apparently Sociology is quite an easy subject anyway).
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PRSOM. They only require one science btw (just wanted to add for psychology BSc, which is different to BA Psychology which doesnt require specific A levels since it's a social science)
PRSOM - I think there are some Cambridge colleges that require two, but yeah, not the most relevant point ever and you're right
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PRSOM - I think there are some Cambridge colleges that require two, but yeah, not the most relevant point ever and you're right
Ooo do you know any specifically? I would love to expand my knowledge. Noooo every information is important, especially since they are still unsure about what degree they want to do :heart:
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You'll be fine as those are universities preferred subjects. Facilitating subjects doesn't matter except Trinity College in Cambridge, who explicitly states it in their entry requirements. It helps if you are undecided on what to pick but you know what A levels you want to do so it doesnt really have a weighting in your decision. Your A levels are fine for social science as most social sciences dont have required A levels except Economics, which require A level Maths, and any economic courses like PPE (except Oxford but it's more better to have A level maths for more options in your course). Grades > Subjects anytime. If they wanted certain subjects, they will state it in their entry requirements for that certain course or in their general subject list (e.g. LSE does this). No this will not limit your chances. Also Bath is not a Russell group
I see. I will have to figure out whether there is any possibility that I might want to do an Economics degree. Probably not, but it's difficult because you never know for sure whether you will change your mind last minute.
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Ooo do you know any specifically? I would love to expand my knowledge. Noooo every information is important, especially since they are still unsure about what degree they want to do :heart:
According to their website, Robinson, Trinity and Wolfson! https://www.undergraduate.study.cam....irements_0.pdf

But there are like 10-15 other colleges that will take you with any A levels :lol: It does seem like a 'science-y' course (lab work and stats), but you can specialise so much that it seems like you could take it in a very social science direction or a more neuroscience/evolution one!
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I see. I will have to figure out whether there is any possibility that I might want to do an Economics degree. Probably not, but it's difficult because you never know for sure whether you will change your mind last minute.
There are some that dont require A level maths but it's better to have options if it was something you wanted to do. OMG i totally understand changing my mind. I wanted to do graphic design in yr 7 and 8 then architecture in yr 9 then history in yr 10 then product design in yr 11 and now I am in yr 12 and I want to law for definite - it is very difficult to find a course you love but it's so better taking the time to research what you want to do. Although I dont mind doing history or international relations, my interest for it wouldnt be the same as what I have for law. That research will be so helpful if you do it this summer so you dont worry about it in yr 12, especially with the wrong subjects (which wont be likely with social science)
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According to their website, Robinson, Trinity and Wolfson! https://www.undergraduate.study.cam....irements_0.pdf

But there are like 10-15 other colleges that will take you with any A levels :lol: It does seem like a 'science-y' course (lab work and stats), but you can specialise so much that it seems like you could take it in a very social science direction or a more neuroscience/evolution one!
Thank you so much :heart: Honestly I love Cambridge course system since you can specialise in whatever you want.
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