Kanye West sort of relauches his presidential bid

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This man really doesnt seem well...


Kanye West has officially launched his campaign for the 2020 US presidential election, with an unorthodox rally in Charleston, South Carolina.

West, 43, is running as a candidate for his self-styled "Birthday Party".

At the event, the rapper seemed to make policy decisions off-the-cuff and made several rants, including on abortion and on abolitionist Harriet Tubman.

Fans have questioned whether his last-minute bid for the White House is actually a promotional stunt.

The Charleston rally did little to clarify whether his run is genuine. But a now-deleted tweet sent from West's account on Saturday, appearing to show the song list for a new album, added to the speculation.

The event, held at a wedding and conference hall in the city, was said to be open to registered guests only - but West's campaign website had no function for people to register or RSVP.

What did Kanye West say at the rally?

West appeared with "2020" shaved into the back of his head and wearing a protective security vest, and addressed the gathered crowd without a microphone.

There were no audience microphones either, leading West to repeatedly tell the crowd to be silent so he could hear the questions being asked.

At one point he began crying when talking about abortion, saying that his parents almost aborted him: "There would have been no Kanye West, because my dad was too busy."

He added: "I almost killed my daughter... even if my wife [Kim Kardashian West] were to divorce me after this speech, she brought North into the world, even when I didn't want to."

However he then added that he believes abortion should remain legal, but there should be financial support for struggling new mothers - suggesting that "everybody that has a baby gets a million dollars".

"The only thing that can free us is by obeying the rules that were given to us for a promised land," he said. "Abortion should be legal because guess what? The law is not by God anyway, so what is legality?"

At another moment, he gave an impromptu monologue about 19th century abolitionist Harriet Tubman.

"Harriet Tubman never actually freed the slaves, she just had the slaves go work for other white people," he said.

Tubman was born into slavery, but managed to escape a Maryland plantation in 1849, aged 27. She then returned to the South to rescue other slaves on the network of routes and safe houses known as "underground railroad", risking her own life to lead people to freedom.

West also became tearful when talking about his late mother, who died in 2007 from complications during cosmetic surgery.

What has the reaction been?

The speech has been met with anger by some - mostly sparked by his comments about Tubman - but also with concern over West's welfare.

Professor Jason Nichols, a senior lecturer in African American studies at the University of Maryland, told the BBC he feared West's rambling appearance pointed towards a "manic episode" - although he acknowledged he was not a psychologist

"He has admitted in the past he has been battling mental illness and that sometimes he does not take medication.

"He was a little more coherent than he has been in other times... when he has gone on these rants, but I really believe he is in a bad place right now. He said some really bizarre things."

Professor Nichols added that he was disappointed, as he had hoped West would be able "to push the other candidates", had he had the right advice and support.

"I was actually interested to see what would happen, but after the event today, all that interest has just turned to worry."

Will Kanye West actually be on state ballots?

West, who announced his candidacy on 4 July, has already missed the deadline to qualify for the ballot in several states. He needs to collect enough signatures to appear on the ballot in a number of others.

Last week he qualified to appear on Oklahoma's presidential ballot, the first state where he met the requirements before the deadline.

In order to appear on South Carolina's ballot he needs to collect 10,000 signatures by noon local time (18:00 BST) on Monday.
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Seriously :rolleyes:
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Well then.
This was.... interesting.
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This man really doesnt seem well...
No, he really doesn't. But let's be careful conflating his possible mental disorder with also being a narcissistic egomaniacal moron.
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2020 just keeps on giving. What a wild year.
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Kanye apparently stops taking his bipolar meds when he's making an album, looks like we're seeing the fruits of that behaviour now.
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100% hoping he does actually run... just because it will make the election coverage so much more interesting. If they (and I can't imagine they would.. but if they) let him join the presidential debates..

Then you will have one old guy who can't remember who his wife is.. a pathological narcissistic lair and an unstable bipolar millionaire.. all debating to see who will be the most powerful man in the world.

(Also I'd be fascinated to see who he takes more votes off.. bidens black voters? Or trumps voters who are more inline with his ideology)
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(Original post by fallen_acorns)
100% hoping he does actually run... just because it will make the election coverage so much more interesting. If they (and I can't imagine they would.. but if they) let him join the presidential debates..
There's been established criteria since at least 2012 to make it onto the debate stage for independent candidates, they need to be polling above 15% nationally and get on the ballot in enough states to potentially hit the 270 EC votes needed to win the election. Given the state of 2020 so far I wouldn't be surprised to see him meme his way to that 15% polling threshold, assuming he has a campaign team working to get him on state ballots and it's not just Kanye locked in a room screaming incoherently.

Then you will have one old guy who can't remember who his wife is.. a pathological narcissistic lair and an unstable bipolar millionaire.. all debating to see who will be the most powerful man in the world.
Kanye is also a billionaire.

(Also I'd be fascinated to see who he takes more votes off.. bidens black voters? Or trumps voters who are more inline with his ideology)
I don't expect he'll steal much of either of the big candidate's voterbase- the black voterbase Biden has are mostly either enthusiastically pro-Biden or enthusiastically anti-Trump and unlikely to turn for a fringe candidate just because he's also black. On the other side of the coin Trump has spent 4 years building a cult of personality that are unlikely to be swayed by West's celebrity power, especially when he seemingly leans further left than Trump (although we have no idea what his actual platform is yet). If he's going to pull votes from anywhere, it will be the youth vote that would otherwise be unlikely to vote at all, although if even Sanders couldn't motivate America's left leaning youth to come out and vote in force during the primaries I don't think West will have a better chance, even with meme power on his side.
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(Original post by Gofre)
There's been established criteria since at least 2012 to make it onto the debate stage for independent candidates, they need to be polling above 15% nationally and get on the ballot in enough states to potentially hit the 270 EC votes needed to win the election. Given the state of 2020 so far I wouldn't be surprised to see him meme his way to that 15% polling threshold, assuming he has a campaign team working to get him on state ballots and it's not just Kanye locked in a room screaming incoherently.



Kanye is also a billionaire.



I don't expect he'll steal much of either of the big candidate's voterbase- the black voterbase Biden has are mostly either enthusiastically pro-Biden or enthusiastically anti-Trump and unlikely to turn for a fringe candidate just because he's also black. On the other side of the coin Trump has spent 4 years building a cult of personality that are unlikely to be swayed by West's celebrity power, especially when he seemingly leans further left than Trump (although we have no idea what his actual platform is yet). If he's going to pull votes from anywhere, it will be the youth vote that would otherwise be unlikely to vote at all, although if even Sanders couldn't motivate America's left leaning youth to come out and vote in force during the primaries I don't think West will have a better chance, even with meme power on his side.
Hoping he doesn’t take voters away from Biden because the last thing this world needs is another 5 years of Trump’s stupidity.
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(Original post by fallen_acorns)
100% hoping he does actually run... just because it will make the election coverage so much more interesting. If they (and I can't imagine they would.. but if they) let him join the presidential debates..

Then you will have one old guy who can't remember who his wife is.. a pathological narcissistic lair and an unstable bipolar millionaire.. all debating to see who will be the most powerful man in the world.

(Also I'd be fascinated to see who he takes more votes off.. bidens black voters? Or trumps voters who are more inline with his ideology)
It'll be the best reality tv show ever made seeing that happen :lol:
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Hoping he doesn’t take voters away from Biden because the last thing this world needs is another 5 years of Trump’s stupidity.
One hopes Bidens supporters arent quite cretinous to vote for this mentally troubled meat sack.
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Hold a rally in a state you want to win - check
Remember to actually register to be on the ballot in that state - oops...

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-a9629416.html
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One hopes Bidens supporters arent quite cretinous to vote for this mentally troubled meat sack.
Yep!
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Hold a rally in a state you want to win - check
Remember to actually register to be on the ballot in that state - oops...

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-a9629416.html
He's already missed the boat on over 20% of possible electoral college seats by missing deadlines in a handful of states, including the second and third largest states in Texas and Florida. If he doesn't get his sh*t together in the next two weeks he could be sitting it out in as many as 12 other states.
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He's already missed the boat on over 20% of possible electoral college seats by missing deadlines in a handful of states, including the second and third largest states in Texas and Florida. If he doesn't get his sh*t together in the next two weeks he could be sitting it out in as many as 12 other states.
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He's already missed the boat on over 20% of possible electoral college seats by missing deadlines in a handful of states, including the second and third largest states in Texas and Florida. If he doesn't get his sh*t together in the next two weeks he could be sitting it out in as many as 12 other states.
Apparently he had a bit of a Twitter meltdown overnight, so I don't think his **** is even remotely together.
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Apparently he had a bit of a Twitter meltdown overnight, so I don't think his **** is even remotely together.
Apparently his wife is considering having him sectioned/divorce him for the vitriol he spewed about her :lol:
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This does not sound like a man with a plan.
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Descendant Of Harriet Tubman Speaks Out Against Kanye West

During the campaign rally, Kanye claimed that Harriet Tubman sent the slaves she freed to work at other plantations. “Harriet Tubman…never actually freed the slaves,” he said. “She just had the slaves go work for other white people.”

“If it hadn’t been for people like her,” Wyatt continued, “he would still be on that plantation. He would not be able to be out there saying the things he says and he wouldn’t have the money he has because they would have it all.”
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I think Kanye needs helps. It’s concerning.
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I think Kanye needs helps. It’s concerning.
For a country that ranks so highly in drugging its citizens with opiates/benzoes/ssri's he seems to have somehow missed his dose
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