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Back up plan - rejected from Midwifery

I feel it’s a wise move to have a back up plan career wise. I’m passionate about midwifery, but I was rejected, even though I work on the maternity ward as a HCA and revised lots for the interview.

Anyway, if I don’t get onto the midwifery course again, would you suggest adult or children’s nursing instead? On the one hand, I’d possibly like to be a neonatal nurse or a health visitor (which can be do via both the adult and child nursing route), but I’m not passionate about being an adult nurse in the true sense of the word. It’s just not for me, and I know that from working on those wards and nursing homes/community caring.

If I did children’s nursing, then that would limit my options, and the course is equally as competitive as midwifery so I may be in the same situation again, but the placements would be more enjoyable to me than the adult nursing ones. If I did adult nursing then I could potentially study to be a midwife and do the 18 month top up course. I’m really stuck and want someone to shed some light on this quandary for me please.

Has anyone been in a similar situation?

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Original post by Oliviasmithxo
I feel it’s a wise move to have a back up plan career wise. I’m passionate about midwifery, but I was rejected, even though I work on the maternity ward as a HCA and revised lots for the interview.

Anyway, if I don’t get onto the midwifery course again, would you suggest adult or children’s nursing instead? On the one hand, I’d possibly like to be a neonatal nurse or a health visitor (which can be do via both the adult and child nursing route), but I’m not passionate about being an adult nurse in the true sense of the word. It’s just not for me, and I know that from working on those wards and nursing homes/community caring.

If I did children’s nursing, then that would limit my options, and the course is equally as competitive as midwifery so I may be in the same situation again, but the placements would be more enjoyable to me than the adult nursing ones. If I did adult nursing then I could potentially study to be a midwife and do the 18 month top up course. I’m really stuck and want someone to shed some light on this quandary for me please.

Has anyone been in a similar situation?

Do the adult nursing course if you feel you want this but again you said children nurse then perhaps the better option for you then.
To be a neonatal nurse you need to obvious have one of the nursing routes but with a 4 years BSC degree and a minimum of 6 months working in a neonatal setting before you able to apply for this.

Another thing the NMC has been phrasing out the 18 months midwife top up courses because to many nurses been lost to midwifing and they now wanting anyone who wish to be a midwife to do the 3 years course first , so you may not get that choice of becoming a midwife without becoming a student midwife nurse for 3 years after you completed 3 years as student adult / children nurse so think about this as well ok.
There's few trusts still doing the top up courses for midwifing but for how much longer is the question.

Unfortunately it don't matter how much preparations you do for interviews for nursing courses you can still be rejected and yes you work on a maternity ward as HCA but yet you got nowhere.
Try again for it next year but put down your other chosen route as a back up ok.
Original post by Oliviasmithxo
I feel it’s a wise move to have a back up plan career wise. I’m passionate about midwifery, but I was rejected, even though I work on the maternity ward as a HCA and revised lots for the interview.

Anyway, if I don’t get onto the midwifery course again, would you suggest adult or children’s nursing instead? On the one hand, I’d possibly like to be a neonatal nurse or a health visitor (which can be do via both the adult and child nursing route), but I’m not passionate about being an adult nurse in the true sense of the word. It’s just not for me, and I know that from working on those wards and nursing homes/community caring.

If I did children’s nursing, then that would limit my options, and the course is equally as competitive as midwifery so I may be in the same situation again, but the placements would be more enjoyable to me than the adult nursing ones. If I did adult nursing then I could potentially study to be a midwife and do the 18 month top up course. I’m really stuck and want someone to shed some light on this quandary for me please.

Has anyone been in a similar situation?

Hey @Oliviasmithxo,
I am hoping to do adult nursing in September after recently changing to adult nursing from midwifery. I know that I want to go into the medical field and that I do really have an interest in the field of midwifery, but the reason why I changed and applied for adult nursing was because I have more experience in that field (personally) and just in case I wanted to specialise in a different field. However, if I get to that point and want to do midwifery, then I could also do a specialist course (which I think is around 18 months according to the RCN).
All I want to say is that you aren't out of options and do a course that you know you are going to enjoy and make the most out of.

Hope this helps in some way or another x
Original post by nichole1234
Hey @Oliviasmithxo,
I am hoping to do adult nursing in September after recently changing to adult nursing from midwifery. I know that I want to go into the medical field and that I do really have an interest in the field of midwifery, but the reason why I changed and applied for adult nursing was because I have more experience in that field (personally) and just in case I wanted to specialise in a different field. However, if I get to that point and want to do midwifery, then I could also do a specialist course (which I think is around 18 months according to the RCN).
All I want to say is that you aren't out of options and do a course that you know you are going to enjoy and make the most out of.

Hope this helps in some way or another x

Hi

Just to say that majority of trusts are phrasing out the 18 month top up courses for midwifing and if the trust you working within is still doing that then take advantage of it . As approved by the NMC about 2017/18 ..
Check that this is still available within your trust .
Original post by Tracey1995
Hi

Just to say that majority of trusts are phrasing out the 18 month top up courses for midwifing and if the trust you working within is still doing that then take advantage of it . As approved by the NMC about 2017/18 ..
Check that this is still available within your trust .

Thank you for this heads up! I didn't know about this
Original post by nichole1234
Thank you for this heads up! I didn't know about this

Read what I said to the person you also messaged on this ok.

I thought you would had known this having started midwifing you said and swapping over to adult nursing course. You should had just stuck the midwifing like.

No worries as I would look into this as it was decided to do this few years ago due to shortages of nurses apparently by NMC.
They may had postponed this for time being but I would suggest to you to look further into this,

I know a friend who just did this route and she was on one of the last shortened course in 2018 apparently at the local university she attended for it .
Original post by Tracey1995
Do the adult nursing course if you feel you want this but again you said children nurse then perhaps the better option for you then.
To be a neonatal nurse you need to obvious have one of the nursing routes but with a 4 years BSC degree and a minimum of 6 months working in a neonatal setting before you able to apply for this.

Another thing the NMC has been phrasing out the 18 months midwife top up courses because to many nurses been lost to midwifing and they now wanting anyone who wish to be a midwife to do the 3 years course first , so you may not get that choice of becoming a midwife without becoming a student midwife nurse for 3 years after you completed 3 years as student adult / children nurse so think about this as well ok.
There's few trusts still doing the top up courses for midwifing but for how much longer is the question.

Unfortunately it don't matter how much preparations you do for interviews for nursing courses you can still be rejected and yes you work on a maternity ward as HCA but yet you got nowhere.
Try again for it next year but put down your other chosen route as a back up ok.

Hi,

So I’d have to do another short course to be a neonatal nurse? I wonder if the same thing would happen as midwifery, that they’re being phased out due to the profession losing nurses to midwifery.

I’d heard rumours about unis stopping the midwifery course but I didn’t know who or what to believe. I don’t want to settle for adult nursing if it limits me to just adults if that makes sense? That’s not the route I want to take long term.

Thank you.
Original post by nichole1234
Hey @Oliviasmithxo,
I am hoping to do adult nursing in September after recently changing to adult nursing from midwifery. I know that I want to go into the medical field and that I do really have an interest in the field of midwifery, but the reason why I changed and applied for adult nursing was because I have more experience in that field (personally) and just in case I wanted to specialise in a different field. However, if I get to that point and want to do midwifery, then I could also do a specialist course (which I think is around 18 months according to the RCN).
All I want to say is that you aren't out of options and do a course that you know you are going to enjoy and make the most out of.

Hope this helps in some way or another x

Hi,

Yes that does help, but it also worries me that the midwifery top up course is being scrapped soon. Maybe I should go down the children’s nursing route instead. It’s hard because adult nursing opens more doors.
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Original post by Oliviasmithxo
So I’d have to do another short course to be a neonatal nurse?

Sounds like you've not quite got what Tracey's trying to explain. You do 3 years to train as a nurse in England & Wales, in Scotland you do 3 years to get the BSc/BN but have to do a 4th year to get the honours bit. Some hospital trusts require you to have x amount of experience to get work on a neonatal unit (usually at least 6 months) but some trusts will take newly qualified nurses into neonates. I have known adult nurses go into neonates, but many places prefer children's nurses.
Original post by Emily_B
Sounds like you've not quite got what Tracey's trying to explain. You do 3 years to train as a nurse in England & Wales, in Scotland you do 3 years to get the BSc/BN but have to do a 4th year to get the honours bit. Some hospital trusts require you to have x amount of experience to get work on a neonatal unit (usually at least 6 months) but some trusts will take newly qualified nurses into neonates. I have known adult nurses go into neonates, but many places prefer children's nurses.



Emily is correct what she said here about different ways that UK countries train the nurses with different amount of years in each part of the UK.

To be a neonatal nurse I think you do a year part-time course to get the necessary qualification you needing to become a neonatal nurse.


As I said previously you need to be either a qualified Adult nurse / A qualified Midwife and also a qualified Children nurse to work in the neonatal nurse ward .
Any of those will be suitable but midwifing you get some training about neonatal anyway which is useful.

You just can't walk into this job without the necessary qualification okay. I think it's mostly on hand training you do and one day at university but you'll need to look this information up on the necessary website for the university as I not 100% sure on how you do the training for it ok.

Unfortunately its in black and white what the requirements you need to become a neonatal nurse and yes you need to have xxxx time on a neonatal ward as well and its only about 6 months which is nothing and you getting paid if you are already qualified as well .

To be honest its not long to do this training as if I wanted to do this I would certainly go and do the training for it same as I think Emily would do .xx
(edited 3 years ago)
Look up this

www. what do I need to be a neonatal nurse -
and you'll see lots of options on it and read through it and you'll see what I am on about without me explaining it over and over

Original post by Oliviasmithxo
I feel it’s a wise move to have a back up plan career wise. I’m passionate about midwifery, but I was rejected, even though I work on the maternity ward as a HCA and revised lots for the interview.

Anyway, if I don’t get onto the midwifery course again, would you suggest adult or children’s nursing instead? On the one hand, I’d possibly like to be a neonatal nurse or a health visitor (which can be do via both the adult and child nursing route), but I’m not passionate about being an adult nurse in the true sense of the word. It’s just not for me, and I know that from working on those wards and nursing homes/community caring.

If I did children’s nursing, then that would limit my options, and the course is equally as competitive as midwifery so I may be in the same situation again, but the placements would be more enjoyable to me than the adult nursing ones. If I did adult nursing then I could potentially study to be a midwife and do the 18 month top up course. I’m really stuck and want someone to shed some light on this quandary for me please.

Has anyone been in a similar situation?
I think if its midwifery that you want to do that you should just apply for this again. Although I went to uni in 2003 (and did paeds), I remember them saying that they wouldnt consider the people who put adult and paeds for paeds as they wanted the people who were really committed to paeds. They also tried getting people to change to adult on the interview day.
Original post by Oliviasmithxo
I feel it’s a wise move to have a back up plan career wise. I’m passionate about midwifery, but I was rejected, even though I work on the maternity ward as a HCA and revised lots for the interview.

Anyway, if I don’t get onto the midwifery course again, would you suggest adult or children’s nursing instead? On the one hand, I’d possibly like to be a neonatal nurse or a health visitor (which can be do via both the adult and child nursing route), but I’m not passionate about being an adult nurse in the true sense of the word. It’s just not for me, and I know that from working on those wards and nursing homes/community caring.

If I did children’s nursing, then that would limit my options, and the course is equally as competitive as midwifery so I may be in the same situation again, but the placements would be more enjoyable to me than the adult nursing ones. If I did adult nursing then I could potentially study to be a midwife and do the 18 month top up course. I’m really stuck and want someone to shed some light on this quandary for me please.

Has anyone been in a similar situation?

Hiya, yes I’ve been in pretty much the same situation. I’ve got years of midwifery support worker experience and have even done the first year of the midwifery degree but had to drop out due to mental health problems which I have now recovered from. However I was rejected after interview 2 years in a row so started adult nursing with the view of doing the conversion. They then scrapped the conversion in my area and I can’t move due to kids. I’m now switching to children’s nursing because the placements are more enjoyable, i don’t want to work in elderly (done years in general wards and care homes) and that is the predominant age group in this area. I’m now really looking forward to starting children’s nursing and want to go into health visiting or neonatal nursing. I was told I could do both of these with adult hence another reason I started it but turns out my trust doesn’t accept adult nurses on neonatal.
It’s a hard enough course to do, let alone if your heart isn’t in it. I may still do midwifery one day as student finance confirmed I could get funding for the BSc after having completed nursing as it’s a health course. But I think I’ll be happy in children’s for some time
Hello, hope you are all well! In september 2018 i got a place at uni to study adult nursing. I originally applied for midwifery, however, got offers for adult nursing instead so I joined the course in september 2018. I unfortunately failed the practice exam and was kicked off the course, I passed all my practice hours and placement book but that was the only aspect of practice I had failed as I achieved below 40%. I explained to the course leader as I had family issues also going on at that time which I believe led to failure, but I was unable to resit the exam and was withdrawn from the course. As the uni I attended was not supportive in any way or advised me it kind of put me off re applying to uni, however, after much thought I have decided I want to reapply to university again try for midwifery or childrens nursing instead. In may I started doing an midwifery access course to help me be in a better position, although I have triple Distinction in health and social care level 3 I still am very passionate about becoming a midwife.I do not want to apply to late as I know it is 2020 clearing but I am hoping to finish the course by december and fill in a ucas application for the early 2021 intake for a nursing or midwifery course as I know some universities have early intakes. Is it too late to apply for the early intake if I get my application sent of by mid september? Also, is it better to phone and ask? sorry for typing too much, I hope someone can advise me as I dont really want to apply for september 2021 earlier the better!
Thankyou :smile:
Hi

Ucas opens mid September for 2021 entry, and some unis have entry points in the January of 2022 that you could apply for.

I’ve filled in my application form but can’t send till mid September unfortunately.

Does that help?

Olivia x
Original post by Oliviasmithxo
Hi

Ucas opens mid September for 2021 entry, and some unis have entry points in the January of 2022 that you could apply for.

I’ve filled in my application form but can’t send till mid September unfortunately.

Does that help?

Olivia x

Hi olivia,

Thankyou for your response. Do you mean january 2021 entry? and ucas opening mid september 2020?

thanks again x
Original post by angel247
Hi olivia,

Thankyou for your response. Do you mean january 2021 entry? and ucas opening mid september 2020?

thanks again x

Hey,

Sorry yes so next month ucas will open and then you’d be able to go for the January 2021 intake 🥰
Hey,

oh right i thought so. Will the early 2021 intake applications be processed much quicker than the original academic year i.e september ones are? as the time frame is much smaller

thankyou
Original post by xxcazaxx
I think if its midwifery that you want to do that you should just apply for this again. Although I went to uni in 2003 (and did paeds), I remember them saying that they wouldnt consider the people who put adult and paeds for paeds as they wanted the people who were really committed to paeds. They also tried getting people to change to adult on the interview day.

Hey there!

How is peadistric nursing. I am going into my second year and still trying to figure out what i would like to do. I know i have a long way to go. I am wondering how have you found it?
Reply 19
I know this thread is a little old but it’s probably worth pointing out that midwifery is essentially a very specialist form of adult nursing. You’re working with adults in the main and the midwives have very little to do with the babies themselves once the mothers leave their care. Some midwives never lay eyes on a baby at all in all their working lives if they’re part of the antenatal team. If you’re more interested in paediatrics than adult nursing as back up that might tell you something about where your interests lie. If you want to work in a more specialist role with babies, consider perhaps more specialist roles among the AHPs. Or go with your gut and go for children’s nursing.

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