Unis are going to ban freshers from having parties and overnight visitors

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Oh come on, it's not just that. The university experience is different or everyon. Some people go to university just to party, others only go to get their degree certificate at the end, but there are plenty of people in between the two extremes. Courses are being taught with 'blended' learning which sounds great until you're actually told what's happening. My university was supposed to have small group learning but because the uni is debt a lot of staff have been made redundant, so the small group learning has now become large group learning via teams. My course is going from being about 20 hours per week to being about 3/4 hours per week in person. We're not getting our clinical placements as far as I know, we won't get any societies. I came to university for a degree (this being my second degree I care about partying even less), but the networking, clinical experience, and general university life isn't going to be there, and that is going to make the whole experience a lot less enjoyable and motivating, and sometimes makes me question if it's worth what I'm paying (some of which is out of pocket).

I can see why some first years may not want to start this year. It's probably going to be very miserable and I doubt the spring and summer terms will be much better.
Fair enough, you explained it a lot better. Though I think where there's the will, there's still a way. Professionals and headhunters will still see fertile ground among the student population, and will still make efforts to organise professional events. It's in their interest after all, to do so. Employers, professional institutions, etc. That's my belief.

The creative recruiters could organise outings in 'bubbles' of up to 6 people to comply with the rules. Go for walks, grab some sponsored beers. Etc. There are ways around this. Just need to be creative.
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Eh, Imperial said a while ago that they wouldn't have any twin rooms in halls.
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You can't just defer. Universities have to allow you to (you can see the problem here), otherwise you need to withdraw.
Look, the thing is... I am not going to enjoy freshers anyway. I know this is evil but considering the fact that if people defer their places or withdraw then unis would be more lenient if we miss our grades. Just saying lol. I know its evil tho hahah
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UCL is the first uni to be brave enough to admit to prospective students that freshers week isn't happening and accommodation is going to be massively restricted

https://thetab.com/uk/2020/07/27/uni...isitors-168150
You are Freshers for the whole year - not just for one week. Let's just hope that things improve in the future for us all.
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I can personally say that I have not received any emails at all from Liverpool John moores regarding anything. I literally have to go to their website and find info. There is none. Just some BS general statement that is not updated regularly. Their instagram is a joke. Only info they've given is free face masks and hand gel throughout the premises. But what can I say its quite a rubbish uni anyway
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Realistically though, UCL's measures won't stop you from meeting people outside of student halls premises. They can't. It's not their jurisdiction.

Realistically, at best, it will stop people having as many one-night stands as they'd like to. I don't know what UCL accommodation is like. Unless they have receptionists or doormen at every entrance, someone is going to have to sit and review hundreds, maybe thousands of hours of CCTV footage per week to identify students breaking social distancing rules. They won't bother, but the idea of this will deter some of the more paranoid students I suppose. At least initially.

So the fact this would convince some students to defer an whole year... just makes me facepalm.
For a lot of people uni is about socialising and meeting new people and not about having the degree. You have to respect that view for some people. There are people who come to uni to learn and get a degree and there are others who come purely for the social aspect, so deferring because of that is not really a problem, although I doubt the uni will allow it.
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Fair enough, you explained it a lot better. Though I think where there's the will, there's still a way. Professionals and headhunters will still see fertile ground among the student population, and will still make efforts to organise professional events. It's in their interest after all, to do so. Employers, professional institutions, etc. That's my belief.

The creative recruiters could organise outings in 'bubbles' of up to 6 people to comply with the rules. Go for walks, grab some sponsored beers. Etc. There are ways around this. Just need to be creative.
One would hope so. But it will lead to more competition. To be honest with my course it's a non-issue because of the career I'll go into, but if I were in my finaly years of my first degree I'd be a lot more concerned.

That aside, you have the issue that university seems to be, to put it frankly, a time which makes or breaks the mental health issues of a lot of students. I went through a very dark period in my second and third years of university. I was in a very bad place, my university councelling service was useless, and going home wouldn't have helped anything. My friends and being able to distract myself with university life and societies were what eventually helped me get to a point where I started to slowly get better. Things will be a lot more isolated now, I'm already concerned about my own well being, and will be harder for students that are struggling now. A lot of universities had poor support in place before. Despite so many saying they are 'investing' in more now because of covid-19, I can't see how things will improve much if they have less money to work with and potentially more people seeking help.
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Look, the thing is... I am not going to enjoy freshers anyway. I know this is evil but considering the fact that if people defer their places or withdraw then unis would be more lenient if we miss our grades. Just saying lol. I know its evil tho hahah
Essentially they'll start scraping the bottom of the barrel for cash then? :lol:
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Essentially they'll start scraping the bottom of the barrel for cash then? :lol:
hahahha thats the thing I want lol. Once they do that, theyd have to take me if I miss a grade or two.
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Yes we as 2020 freshers wont get that crazy clubbing experience. But trust me. The freshers wont stop. I am from Liverpool and will be going to uni in Liverpool. Since bars have opened. SO MANY people have been gathering at night drinking in the centre and literally no one is social distancing. There will be many street parties during freshers. Night clubs wont be open. But most bars will be open. And people gather around and outside bars with loud music and get drunk. Freshers will still happen. But there wont be nightclubs. And trust me, I dont have facebook and I will not be doing none of that "virtual" "online fresher events" like wtf is that gonna be? No. I will not waste my time on that. People will go towards the bars in concert square and baltic triangle and it will be crazy because right now it is crazy. I went out to baltic triangle and people were having so much fun and its like a huge street party. Do your pres, go out and bobs your uncle.
Yeah thanks I’d rather not risk dying or getting people killed. Maybe think about valuing human life over your ****ing sesh.
Anyone who goes to parties like that right now is a grade A *******, this is literally life and death for some people.
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Yeah thanks I’d rather not risk dying or getting people killed. Maybe think about valuing human life over your ****ing sesh.
Anyone who goes to parties like that right now is a grade A *******, this is literally life and death for some people.
But one can argue that if you go to a party, you are putting yourself at risk. Obviously it would be silly, if you know you are a someone who could be seriously affected by the virus to go to such parties. But if you are not then its fine, although going on mad raves and too crowded places would be a nono.
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One would hope so. But it will lead to more competition. To be honest with my course it's a non-issue because of the career I'll go into, but if I were in my finaly years of my first degree I'd be a lot more concerned.

That aside, you have the issue that university seems to be, to put it frankly, a time which makes or breaks the mental health issues of a lot of students. I went through a very dark period in my second and third years of university. I was in a very bad place, my university councelling service was useless, and going home wouldn't have helped anything. My friends and being able to distract myself with university life and societies were what eventually helped me get to a point where I started to slowly get better. Things will be a lot more isolated now, I'm already concerned about my own well being, and will be harder for students that are struggling now. A lot of universities had poor support in place before. Despite so many saying they are 'investing' in more now because of covid-19, I can't see how things will improve much if they have less money to work with and potentially more people seeking help.
Would deferring one year of studies alleviate feeling of 'isolation' though? I doubt it. You'd be stuck at home with parents, most likely, for another year. No classmates whatsoever. No course mates either. Perhaps whatever acquaintances you make in whatever temporary job you manage to land.

Would it also improve job prospects? Also doubt it, given the state of the economy.

If you're loaded I suppose you could go traveling on a gap year, but that carries other risks under the circumstances. Though some countries are no longer a virus risk anymore.

Edit: to summarise, dropping out of the 'race' for a year, won't get you further ahead. Obviously. Unless you really can find better things to do with yourself in the meantime.
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Would deferring one year of studies alleviate feeling of 'isolation' though? I doubt it. You'd be stuck at home with parents, most likely, for another year.

Would it also improve job prospects? Also doubt it, given the state of the economy.

If you're loaded I suppose you could go traveling on a gap year, but that carries other risks under the circumstances. Though some countries are no longer a virus risk anymore.
Depends on what you deem as isolation. Being stuck at home with my parents depresses me - I've never been homesick. For others, being away from their family members with people they don't know is what triggers things off. Despite the next term probably not being great at all, I'm moving back to university because that will be what's better for my mental health. I have friends who are going to be commuting (since we have so few contact hours) because being at home is better for them.

What what improve job prospects?

I have no doubt there will be people using this as an opportunity to travel lol.
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This is no surprise. Telling everyone is being reasonable and perhaps prevents whinging about 'you didn't tell us' from those lacking common sense.

As for nightclubs, if your holiday to Ibiza or Barcelona or some other part of Spain has been cancelled or become more difficult, it is because of people going to nightclubs in Spain. So be glad that they are still closed, otherwise overseas governments will be restricting to those arriving from the UK.
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What what improve job prospects?
Slight typo?

Would deferring entry by a year, improve a persons' job prospects? Likely not. I edited my earlier comment too by the way, explaining briefly why I think so.
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Slight typo?

Would deferring entry by a year, improve a persons' job prospects? Likely not. I edited my earlier comment too by the way, explaining briefly why I think so.
Probably not. I never said it would? A lot of students seem to thing they can just walk into a job with a degree certificate from the university of raaaaaaaah (when we all know that isn't true), so I doubt job prospects are a priority when they are thinking about whether to defer or not.
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Probably not. I never said it would? A lot of students seem to thing they can just walk into a job with a degree certificate from the university of raaaaaaaah (when we all know that isn't true), so I doubt job prospects are a priority when they are thinking about whether to defer or not.
Maybe I misread then. I can't be bothered to nitpick now and find the sentence where I thought you implied those things. lol
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UCL is the first uni to be brave enough to admit to prospective students that freshers week isn't happening and accommodation is going to be massively restricted

https://thetab.com/uk/2020/07/27/uni...isitors-168150

:rofl: LMAO @ Virtual Fresher Events...

funniest thing I've heard in weeks..
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buuut would withdrawing/deferring for gap year lower job prospects cause there’s not much to do to fill the gap in the middle of a pandemic
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:rofl: LMAO @ Virtual Fresher Events...

funniest thing I've heard in weeks..
I just read that and thought "good luck" :rofl:
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