Should we close pubs?

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(Original post by TheStupidMoon)
Morrissey once said it was the pub that wrecks your body, so they can close on that basis.

Where are the increase in the sickness from all the riots earlier this summer?
Isnt he a raging racist...?
Probably at home coughing into their soy mochas and other frivolous crap.
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Isnt he a raging racist...?
Probably at home coughing into their soy mochas and other frivolous crap.
Poster is a troll more or less.
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A fair point only if you actually address how this situation ends and what level of public money you're willing to spend to keep these businesses afloat.

Of course everything would be safer if we all just stayed in our homes and never went out, but that simply cannot continue in the long-term.
Better than citywide lockdowns due to cases traced to pubs
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Poster is a troll more or less.
That's not a nice thing to say about Napp even if he is outrageous for not knowing who Morrissey or The Smiths are.
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Now closed in Aberdeen in response to rising cases linked to a pub. The SNP being prepared to act unlike the slow to respond government of Mr Johnson (Conservative in name only in my opinion).
Yes, certainly. Prepared to act on the day the criminal mishandling of a generation of young people's exam results come to light. I'm sure they were more than happy to get on board with any distraction - even though they hadn't even contacted many of the pubs for contact tracing information that they were suggesting were linked to outbreaks.
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Isnt he a raging racist...?
No. He's a Charming Man.
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I hope the resolution isn't poor.
What about the world class test and trace system? Or the 100,000 tests per day by the end of April (this graph suggests not achieved until mid-July)?


I'd still favour closing pubs as the first restriction to be re-imposed.
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(Original post by TheStupidMoon)
That's not a nice thing to say about Napp even if he is outrageous for not knowing who Morrissey or The Smiths are.
David Cameron (who has remained silent about Covid 19 it seems) managed to achieve almost the impossible- uniting Johnny Marr and Morrissey in a common cause, both not wanting Mr Cameron to like The Smiths. They did not Panic though, even though they thought he was not This Charming Man.


His views on pub closures are not known.
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No. He's a Charming Man.
In the same way David Duke is maybe.
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What about the world class test and trace system? Or the 100,000 tests per day by the end of April (this graph suggests not achieved until mid-July)?


I'd still favour closing pubs as the first restriction to be re-imposed.
What about it? Here you are, the information for 100,000 tests (not the newest). Anymore questions for Our World in Data is best answered by Our World in Data.

Here is a letter to The Telegraph:

SIR – The Government warns that pubs may have to close so schools can open in September. Given that children don’t go to pubs and drinkers don’t go to school, what is the correlation?

Kate Graeme-Cook
Brixham, Devon

I too wish to know: what is the correlation?
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In the same way David Duke is maybe.
Why is he racist and what is he a Duke of?
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Why is he racist and what is he a Duke of?
You are more than welcome to google his name and see the littancy of news reports on the matter.
What do you mean what is a he a Duke of? It's a name, not a title.
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No, because it would be going backwards rather than forwards. If they were closed again then when would they be allowed to re-open? There's no sign of a vaccine any time soon. The back end of 2021 at the earliest before it's rolled out en masse I think is the consensus. Closing pubs again would send many pubs out of business. That of course leads to more unemployment. We can't go on for months and months, potentially years without being able to socialise properly and denying large sectors of the economy from trading.I'm not saying reopen everything back up yet such as nightclubs, large gatherings etc but I do think the lines got to be drawn somewhere.
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(Original post by LaPregunta)
Here is a letter to The Telegraph:

SIR – The Government warns that pubs may have to close so schools can open in September. Given that children don’t go to pubs and drinkers don’t go to school, what is the correlation?

Kate Graeme-Cook
Brixham, Devon

I too wish to know: what is the correlation?
Are you saying teachers don't go to the pubs?

There is no correlation but trying to identify one is to completely miss the point. Covid spreads when people come into contact with each other. If you shut schools OR shut pubs, you massively reduce the number of people comibg into contact with each other. It therefore boils down which is the best thing to do.

It is the same with banning people going to each other's gardens and homes in the north. There is no hypocrisy. It is just a cost effective way of reducing the amount of contact we have with each other and thus the spread of the virus.
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You are more than welcome to google his name and see the littancy of news reports on the matter.
What do you mean what is a he a Duke of? It's a name, not a title.
LoL I thought you were having a laugh like calling Morrissey a racist.
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Are you saying teachers don't go to the pubs?

There is no correlation but trying to identify one is to completely miss the point. Covid spreads when people come into contact with each other. If you shut schools OR shut pubs, you massively reduce the number of people comibg into contact with each other. It therefore boils down which is the best thing to do.

It is the same with banning people going to each other's gardens and homes in the north. There is no hypocrisy. It is just a cost effective way of reducing the amount of contact we have with each other and thus the spread of the virus.
I think closing pubs is better of the two.
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We need to close pubs because there are already cases of COVID being transmitted from them so I don’t know why they are keeping them open. It’s because of the economy but if they’re letting the kids go back to school, they need to shut the pubs by September.
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Are you saying teachers don't go to the pubs?

There is no correlation but trying to identify one is to completely miss the point. Covid spreads when people come into contact with each other. If you shut schools OR shut pubs, you massively reduce the number of people comibg into contact with each other. It therefore boils down which is the best thing to do.

It is the same with banning people going to each other's gardens and homes in the north. There is no hypocrisy. It is just a cost effective way of reducing the amount of contact we have with each other and thus the spread of the virus.
Can you read? I mentioned 'teachers' not once.

You're an adorable little government pet but I must put you down. What you have done is mistake COVID-19 for a deadly virus. Read the analysis by Stockholm University and you shall discover the age groups of 0-19 and 20-29 are so unlikely to die from it.
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Can you read? I mentioned 'teachers' not once.

You're an adorable little government pet but I must put you down. What you have done is mistake COVID-19 for a deadly virus. Read the analysis by Stockholm University and you shall discover the age groups of 0-19 and 20-29 are so unlikely to die from it.
Agreed. But given 0-29 can still catch and transmit, they are a danger and risk to everyone else.
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Agreed. But given 0-29 can still catch and transmit, they are a danger and risk to everyone else.
If you wish to be bossed around, that's none of my concern; but don't let it affect my life. All ever is said or referenced is risk, risk, risk. Do not neglect the importance of proportion.
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