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So I was thinking of changing my career path and I’m interested in being a midwife however I am pro life and wouldn’t be comfortable in the abortion side of it, what kind of role do midwives have in that area? Would I be expected to carry out the abortions? I don’t think I would be comfortable doing that (I’m not religious by any means I just think it’s morally wrong) and I wouldn’t stop anyone from having one with someone else as it is their legal right I just don’t want to be part of the process of carrying it out.

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As I recall, you are only expected to directly carry it out when there is imminent risk to the mother's life. But you might be required to be indirectly involved. See the Doogan and Wood 2014 case for specifics.
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Hi everyone,

So I was thinking of changing my career path and I’m interested in being a midwife however I am pro life and wouldn’t be comfortable in the abortion side of it, what kind of role do midwives have in that area? Would I be expected to carry out the abortions? I don’t think I would be comfortable doing that (I’m not religious by any means I just think it’s morally wrong) and I wouldn’t stop anyone from having one with someone else as it is their legal right I just don’t want to be part of the process of carrying it out.

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This is left to GP's and specialist doctors to determined whether or not a termination will be done and its usually done with GP prescribing the necessary medication to go through with this and most abortions are done in private healthcare hospitals rather than NHS.

We are there to safe lives of the unborn baby and most people who chose to have a abortion do so on health reasons on unborn baby as may not want to bring up a baby who is for example could be born disabled.

Look up guidance of this on RCN website . ( www.rcn.org termination )or midwifes roles in abortion in uk .

I haven't down one yet since I qualified as a midwife okay .
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(Original post by syracanele)
Hi everyone,

So I was thinking of changing my career path and I’m interested in being a midwife however I am pro life and wouldn’t be comfortable in the abortion side of it, what kind of role do midwives have in that area? Would I be expected to carry out the abortions? I don’t think I would be comfortable doing that (I’m not religious by any means I just think it’s morally wrong) and I wouldn’t stop anyone from having one with someone else as it is their legal right I just don’t want to be part of the process of carrying it out.

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If you feel you need to talk more about midwifing then feel free to PM on it okay .xx
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(Original post by syracanele)
Hi everyone,

So I was thinking of changing my career path and I’m interested in being a midwife however I am pro life and wouldn’t be comfortable in the abortion side of it, what kind of role do midwives have in that area? Would I be expected to carry out the abortions? I don’t think I would be comfortable doing that (I’m not religious by any means I just think it’s morally wrong) and I wouldn’t stop anyone from having one with someone else as it is their legal right I just don’t want to be part of the process of carrying it out.

Thanks!
To work in medicine you don't get to choose who you will help or what care you will offer.

Some work is very difficult, dirty and taxing so maybe you should consider if you are really cut out for nursing.

The moral implications of a publicly funded NHS where staff get to pick and choose would tie all the ancient Greek philosophers in knots for decades.
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Sometimes youve got to compromise
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To work in medicine you don't get to choose who you will help or what care you will offer.

Some work is very difficult, dirty and taxing so maybe you should consider if you are really cut out for nursing.

The moral implications of a publicly funded NHS where staff get to pick and choose would tie all the ancient Greek philosophers in knots for decades.
Wrong. They have a statutory right to conscientiously object https://www.nmc.org.uk/standards/cod...-and-midwives/
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Wrong. They have a statutory right to conscientiously object https://www.nmc.org.uk/standards/cod...-and-midwives/
Yes, you are on the money as usual, Doogan and Wood is the highest profile case detailing the degree to which this objection holds (quite far, in fairness). Protection from direct involvement is in the Abortion Act 1967 and has been confirmed at both the ECHR and the Supreme Court, but indirect involvement is not protected and so a midwife might have to manage, supervise or delegate to a person that will carry out a termination.
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Yes, you are on the money as usual, Doogan and Wood is the highest profile case detailing the degree to which this objection holds (quite far, in fairness). Protection from direct involvement is in the Abortion Act 1967 and has been confirmed at both the ECHR and the Supreme Court, but indirect involvement is not protected and so a midwife might have to manage, supervise or delegate to a person that will carry out a termination.
I will be fine passing on the abortion case to someone else as long as I am not directly involved in administering the drugs otherwise I would completely rule out midwifery as a career
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I will be fine passing on the abortion case to someone else as long as I am not directly involved in administering the drugs otherwise I would completely rule out midwifery as a career
Then your rights are protected
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imagine being prolife
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imagine being prolife
Thats her opinion, she might just not be emotionally capable of carrying out an abortion, or maybe for religious purposes
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abortion is murder
are you okay
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Thats her opinion, she might just not be emotionally capable of carrying out an abortion, or maybe for religious purposes
yes she migth not want an abortion, that's her choice but what about others choices
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yes she migth not want an abortion, that's her choice but what about others choices
She has the right to her own opinion, we can't do anything about it
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abortion is murder
Leave the crap rhetoric out of here.
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Wrong. They have a statutory right to conscientiously object https://www.nmc.org.uk/standards/cod...-and-midwives/
Under section 4.1 of 1967 act gives us the rights to refuse to tasks part in such events unless its obviously for a medical reason so therefore we don't have to do any abortions .
I not yet did any or I shall take part in anyone who does one.
And yes what you said is correct as under NMC rules and regulations on this .
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imagine being prolife
I have my own personal belief system and I do not agree with abortions and would not want to enter a job where I would have to carry them out however I understand other people feel differently and wouldn’t stop them having them as they are allowed under law
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I have my own personal belief system and I do not agree with abortions and would not want to enter a job where I would have to carry them out however I understand other people feel differently and wouldn’t stop them having them as they are allowed under law
Read my last post #17 ok

And if you wish PM and I will talk more on it with you. X
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