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Writing a personal statement when applying multiple subject

Hi,
I am wanting to apply for Materials science predominantly (at Oxford or Loughborough) and also general engineering (with a look to specialising in materials) at Southampton and maybe Warwick.
I am currently trying to write my personal statement (our school has an early deadline) and am struggling on deciding on whether or not to focus on materials.
My main concern is that if I don't focus on Materials that may hinder my application to Oxford/Lboro but if I only talk about Mat sci, then it may hurt my chances with Southampton.
Any Ideas on what I should do? (many thanks)
I'd recommend focusing more on discussing the stuff that links the two topics- since youre planning to specialise in materials, you have fairly similar goals/interests going into them. just talk in general about what got you into that realm of science, and then talk about the specific aspects of engineering that appeal to you. You don't need to specifically say 'i want to take x course for y reason', you could just say 'i'm interested in the design and practical elements of the courses', as an example. that way you arent excluding one.

basically, don't focus as much on the specific titles of the courses themselves, focus on what they're offering you. I assume both courses you're applying to have similar things that attract you?
Hi! I’m a materials scientist from Oxford so hopefully I can help!

I applied for materials science and biomaterials courses (one out of a dentistry department!) so I know the struggle. I would recommend writing about what they’ve got in common- a lot of materials science applies directly to engineering so it won’t be too hard!

Focus your personal statement on the engineering side of materials and I think you’ll get the balance right!

If you want more info about materials at Oxford, I’ve just written a chapter with my advice/experience of applying called Oxford Demystified - Materials science!
Original post by matscigal
Hi! I’m a materials scientist from Oxford so hopefully I can help!

I applied for materials science and biomaterials courses (one out of a dentistry department!) so I know the struggle. I would recommend writing about what they’ve got in common- a lot of materials science applies directly to engineering so it won’t be too hard!

Focus your personal statement on the engineering side of materials and I think you’ll get the balance right!

If you want more info about materials at Oxford, I’ve just written a chapter with my advice/experience of applying called Oxford Demystified - Materials science!

Here’s the link : https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=6621118

a book you might want to give a read is The New science of strong materials (or why things don’t fall through the floor) by J E Gordon! But there are more resources in the chapter!
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Original post by matscigal
Here’s the link : https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=6621118

a book you might want to give a read is The New science of strong materials (or why things don’t fall through the floor) by J E Gordon! But there are more resources in the chapter!

Thank you soooo much that is extremely helpful, and funnily enough I have just finished reading that book and I really enjoyed it too! One question, have you enjoyed your time so far at Oxford?
Yes! I’m really enjoying it! If you have any questions feel free to message me :smile:
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Original post by charleymi
I'd recommend focusing more on discussing the stuff that links the two topics- since youre planning to specialise in materials, you have fairly similar goals/interests going into them. just talk in general about what got you into that realm of science, and then talk about the specific aspects of engineering that appeal to you. You don't need to specifically say 'i want to take x course for y reason', you could just say 'i'm interested in the design and practical elements of the courses', as an example. that way you arent excluding one.

basically, don't focus as much on the specific titles of the courses themselves, focus on what they're offering you. I assume both courses you're applying to have similar things that attract you?

Thanks that's great advice! I never thought about not actually having to mention "taking course x" but that will make things much easier :smile:
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Original post by matscigal
Yes! I’m really enjoying it! If you have any questions feel free to message me :smile:

Hi again,
Had a think and have come up with some questions, if that is cool!

What is it like being in a small department? (More specifically, do you only have lectures/labs with Matsci people and what is that like socially and academically )

Do you think it is likely that PAT will be particularly important this year, as a level prediction are a bit weaker this year due to the pandemic?

Is materials at Oxford mathsy (I ask this as I have seen uni's (not Oxford) describe their course as less mathematical and honestly I like maths so this would be a disappointment)

I have mainly been using Isaac physics and STEP mechanics questions to practice for PAT (outside of the exam qs themselves) and was wondering if looking at the A2 physics olympiad could also be helpful, or if you known anything else good!

When did you start looking at PAT?

During an interview, is the maths/physics problem likely to have a materials twist and how many problems were you given in an interview?

And last but not least, when it comes to personal statements and talking about books/podcasts etc, is it better to focus on something specific I found interesting such as dislocations giving metals their ductility and toughness? And if this is the case, I am assuming know the subject (dislocations) inside out as it will be likely asked at an interview?



Sorry for the bombardment, I didn't realise I had so many questions! And a MASSIVE thanks in advance, I have found it extremely difficult to find info about the course as its not such a common subject.
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This may not help you much but i applied for Media Production at Sunderland and Teeside but applied for Film Practices at Newcastle and Film & TV Production at Northumbria. Each course focused on different things so i tried to cover as much as i could like Newcastle’s course looked more at documentaries so i mentioned the work i had done on one and i linked everything i wrote about to the course. If you’re applying for multiple courses, it may be better to be more general but also make sure you’re showing each of your choices that you can do the things they focus on.
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Original post by NE1
This may not help you much but i applied for Media Production at Sunderland and Teeside but applied for Film Practices at Newcastle and Film & TV Production at Northumbria. Each course focused on different things so i tried to cover as much as i could like Newcastle’s course looked more at documentaries so i mentioned the work i had done on one and i linked everything i wrote about to the course. If you’re applying for multiple courses, it may be better to be more general but also make sure you’re showing each of your choices that you can do the things they focus on.

Yeah thanks that does help, because the subjects have overlap (like yours) I will just try and focus on that.
Original post by tande33
Hi again,
Had a think and have come up with some questions, if that is cool!

What is it like being in a small department? (More specifically, do you only have lectures/labs with Matsci people and what is that like socially and academically )

Do you think it is likely that PAT will be particularly important this year, as a level prediction are a bit weaker this year due to the pandemic?

Is materials at Oxford mathsy (I ask this as I have seen uni's (not Oxford) describe their course as less mathematical and honestly I like maths so this would be a disappointment)

I have mainly been using Isaac physics and STEP mechanics questions to practice for PAT (outside of the exam qs themselves) and was wondering if looking at the A2 physics olympiad could also be helpful, or if you known anything else good!

When did you start looking at PAT?

During an interview, is the maths/physics problem likely to have a materials twist and how many problems were you given in an interview?

And last but not least, when it comes to personal statements and talking about books/podcasts etc, is it better to focus on something specific I found interesting such as dislocations giving metals their ductility and toughness? And if this is the case, I am assuming know the subject (dislocations) inside out as it will be likely asked at an interview?



Sorry for the bombardment, I didn't realise I had so many questions! And a MASSIVE thanks in advance, I have found it extremely difficult to find info about the course as its not such a common subject.

No, it's not a problem! I had all these questions when I applied and no one to ask!! I totally understand why you have these many questions!!

I quite like being in a small department- you do at the very least know everyone's name and the support staff know you too which I quite like. I can walk into lectures and know there will be someone to sit with & there is much more of a sense of community within the year group! We only have lectures and labs with materials students except if you take some of the supplementary options in 2nd year which means you will be with other subjects but that's about it. Obviously, most of your friends will be back in your college so there's still plenty of opportunities to meet people that do different subjects! Socially, we have our own society (most subjects do) but as it's a smaller subject I think it's much better attended- we had an end-of-term online quiz which lots of people joined!

The PAT is used alongside your predictions currently and I don't think the department will change to make the weighting on the PAT higher (although I don't know this!) because UCAS predictions often aren't very accurate anyway!! The PAT for Materials isn't as essential to do as well as Physics or Engineering but you do get a score on it which goes towards the final decision (but honestly I still think I failed it to this day!).

It's not as mathsy as physics but there is a maths paper in the first year which basically extends on the pure content of Further Maths A-Level. We also have more maths lectures at the start of 2nd year and then we just use this maths to do the other parts of our degree. It does probably depend on which options you do later on I quite liked maths (I did further maths!!) and have found it to be enough for me and I would say all my problem sheets have some element of maths in.

I used the physics olympiad questions alongside PAT questions to revise for the PAT. I'd say they're good! Another great resource is Oxford PAT Wordpress which separates past questions by topic- really good if there's something you find more difficult/need more practise! I started looking at the PAT in the summer holidays but seriously started revising in the October half term!

Yep- the questions took A Level Maths, Physics and Chemistry and put a materials spin on them. I'd focus on making sure you have your a level knowledge down! I honestly can't remember how many questions I had- it went so quickly!

I think in some ways it's better to be specific than broad because then they won't bring up something you don't know anything about! They don't expect you to be an expert- if you were you wouldn't be applying to study Materials at undergrad!! They might ask you about it so I'd make sure you've got a basic knowledge but they won't expect you to know everything there is out there on dislocations!

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