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Hi, I am applying for an undergraduate degree in mathematics in Oxford and imperial, mathematics with statistics warwick, mathematics with statistical science ucl. I currently have these 4 unis in mind, I would like to ask for opinions on what to put as my 5th? I want to put a university that is good for maths and has a lower entry requirement + higher chance of getting in. Thank you!
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I would pick a university in a place where I feel I could feel 'at home'.
Don't get too hung up on reputation. When anyone talks about the reputation of a university they are really talking about the quality of the research not the teaching. Any department in any university will have some brilliant teachers and some teachers that are [email protected]
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Good choices so far.

Warwick is a guaranteed offer, UCL is very likely.

Lancaster has a very good statistics department (offer AAA or ABB + 3 in STEP) I believe. Bath (offer A*AA or A*AB + 2 in STEP) is good for maths generally but idk about their stats bit. Bristol is worth looking at. These run on near 100% offer rates too.
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I would pick a university in a place where I feel I could feel 'at home'.
Don't get too hung up on reputation. When anyone talks about the reputation of a university they are really talking about the quality of the research not the teaching. Any department in any university will have some brilliant teachers and some teachers that are [email protected]
I'm an international student, so I don't know about any places that would make me feel at home, haha. To me, reputation is quite important. However, I also think that the quality of the course and the employability in the future is important. Do you have any suggestions on any universities that would fit my 'criteria'?
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Good choices so far.

Warwick is a guaranteed offer, UCL is very likely.

Lancaster has a very good statistics department (offer AAA or ABB + 3 in STEP) I believe. Bath (offer A*AA or A*AB + 2 in STEP) is good for maths generally but idk about their stats bit. Bristol is worth looking at. These run on near 100% offer rates too.
thank you, I will look into it.
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And also, I don't know whether to choose Bsc or MMath.. Can someone help? Which one is better?
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And also, I don't know whether to choose Bsc or MMath.. Can someone help? Which one is better?
Any idea what you want to do after? Have a look at the units offered by each course in their final years and see which set appeals to you more
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Any idea what you want to do after? Have a look at the units offered by each course in their final years and see which set appeals to you more
I have no idea... Honestly I still remain unclear even after looking at the modules offered by different universities
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Hi, I am applying for an undergraduate degree in mathematics in Oxford and imperial, mathematics with statistics warwick, mathematics with statistical science ucl. I currently have these 4 unis in mind, I would like to ask for opinions on what to put as my 5th? I want to put a university that is good for maths and has a lower entry requirement + higher chance of getting in. Thank you!
Hi a lost girl,

Lancaster is currently 8th in the UK for Maths (The Times Good University Guide 2020) and offers a variety of different degrees. You can find more about the course modules here.

I personally chose Lancaster because I fell in love with the campus and the strong, welcoming community. When deciding on a fifth university (aside from focusing on the course, which is the most important thing), I'd ask yourself these questions:
-Do I want a campus/city university?
-What other opportunities are available to me here?
-Is location an important factor?
-What are the career prospects? (Lancaster is currently 3rd in the UK for Career Prospects for Mathematics)
-Do I like the feel of the university? Can I see myself being happy and comfortable there?

I'd also recommend that you chat to current students studying Maths on our UniBuddy platform, to give an insight into their experiences.

If you have any other questions, I'd be happy to help!

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I'm an international student, so I don't know about any places that would make me feel at home, haha. To me, reputation is quite important. However, I also think that the quality of the course and the employability in the future is important. Do you have any suggestions on any universities that would fit my 'criteria'?
Do you prefer big towns/cities or smaller towns/countryside?
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Hi a lost girl,

Lancaster is currently 8th in the UK for Maths (The Times Good University Guide 2020) and offers a variety of different degrees. You can find more about the course modules here.

I personally chose Lancaster because I fell in love with the campus and the strong, welcoming community. When deciding on a fifth university (aside from focusing on the course, which is the most important thing), I'd ask yourself these questions:
-Do I want a campus/city university?
-What other opportunities are available to me here?
-Is location an important factor?
-What are the career prospects? (Lancaster is currently 3rd in the UK for Career Prospects for Mathematics)
-Do I like the feel of the university? Can I see myself being happy and comfortable there?

I'd also recommend that you chat to current students studying Maths on our UniBuddy platform, to give an insight into their experiences.

If you have any other questions, I'd be happy to help!

Maria
1st year English Literature, Creative Writing and Practice (placement year)
Thank you so much, I will definitely think about them.
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Do you prefer big towns/cities or smaller towns/countryside?
I have always been living in a city, so I think I won't be having any problem studying in a city too. I'm not sure about living in a countryside, but I don't really mind about the social life.
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I have always been living in a city, so I think I won't be having any problem studying in a city too. I'm not sure about living in a countryside, but I don't really mind about the social life.
When I say countryside I don't mean miles from civilisation, I mean there is plenty of greenery and wildlife nearby. I ask because those who go to university in a city want lots of clubs/bars that will provide places to go out all night and socialise. Are you saying spending all night out is not really your thing?
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And also, I don't know whether to choose Bsc or MMath.. Can someone help? Which one is better?
mmath has an extra year. Generally you can easily switch between the two for the first year or two but funding wise it's less problematic to start on the mmath then possibly move to the bsc.
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When I say countryside I don't mean miles from civilisation, I mean there is plenty of greenery and wildlife nearby. I ask because those who go to university in a city want lots of clubs/bars that will provide places to go out all night and socialise. Are you saying spending all night out is not really your thing?
Yes, you are right.
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mmath has an extra year. Generally you can easily switch between the two for the first year or two but funding wise it's less problematic to start on the mmath then possibly move to the bsc.
Is there any difference in offer rate between the two?
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Is there any difference in offer rate between the two?
No, pretty much.

Very occasionally the offer is a grade higher but you should check the entry requirements.

If you are thinking of doing a fourth year I would put down the mmath. You might not be able to do this for Oxford, not sure. (you can't do it for Cambridge I believe - does an mmath but i don't think you can apply to it directly on ucas, you would however be able to switch onto it eventually when you get there)
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No, pretty much.

Very occasionally the offer is a grade higher but you should check the entry requirements.

If you are thinking of doing a fourth year I would put down the mmath. You might not be able to do this for Oxford, not sure. (you can't do it for Cambridge I believe - does an mmath but i don't think you can apply to it directly on ucas, you would however be able to switch onto it eventually when you get there)
Bsc and MMath for Oxford have the same ucas code btw. I'm asking this because I have heard that master's in math is not really that necessary (it is not that admirable) and I can apply to another more specialised course for masters, when I probably already know what I want to do at that time. However, MMath will be an easier route if I want to have a masters degree.
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Bsc and MMath for Oxford have the same ucas code btw. I'm asking this because I have heard that master's in math is not really that necessary (it is not that admirable) and I can apply to another more specialised course for masters, when I probably already know what I want to do at that time. However, MMath will be an easier route if I want to have a masters degree.
Ah I see, thanks.

I wouldn't call it "not admirable". It won't give you much of an advantage with jobs and such over the BSc but that's not really the point of doing an mmath. Most people do it as a stepping stone to further study or just to do an extra year of maths.

If you have more specific interests by the time you get to your masters year you can drop down to the BSc then apply elsewhere in the third year.

Yeah - your place on the mmath would be guaranteed if you got certain grades in your previous years, when you make external applications there's always a risk of competition.
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Ah I see, thanks.

I wouldn't call it "not admirable". It won't give you much of an advantage with jobs and such over the BSc but that's not really the point of doing an mmath. Most people do it as a stepping stone to further study or just to do an extra year of maths.

If you have more specific interests by the time you get to your masters year you can drop down to the BSc then apply elsewhere in the third year.

Yeah - your place on the mmath would be guaranteed if you got certain grades in your previous years, when you make external applications there's always a risk of competition.
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