Should employers value education?

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My employers (Network Rail) are forcing me to do a certification course (below bachelors) at a lower ranked uni than my level, what do I do? I have a masters in science from Manchester, a first class bachelors from Oxford too, but they are forcing me to do a certification from Glasgow Caledonian. The pay is good (around 30k for the first year combining London play + joining bonus), role is a rational grad scheme and for my career planning, just a step towards building some experience until I get a better opportunity . I completely understand I should be grateful for this, but, having gone to Oxford and Manchester- quite frankly, GCU seems like a big big downgrade to both my CV and qualifications. It is almost like they do not care what education I have (or my past hard work). Honestly already quite disappointed at this and do not see myself working there for very long term already.
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this post screams i'm a massive snob
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Are your employers providing the funding for the course?
Is the certification for cpd purposes, an insurance requirement or a part of on the job training that all new employees with a specific role/department have to comply with as a condition of their employment?
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this post screams i'm a massive snob
lol , if having worked hard and asking to be recognised is " I am a massive snob", then I am a massive snob and in that scenario have no regrets being one... I know what I went through to get where I am and hence do not seek your approval
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Your employer requires you to do a certification-they don’t need to take any of your education history into account, it is clearly not relevant. 🙄
Are they paying for you to do it?
Don’t like it, leave
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I can't imagine this is real. Why would someone be complaining about being given training to do a job.
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(Original post by londonmyst)
Are your employers providing the funding for the course?
Is the certification for cpd purposes, an insurance requirement or a part of on the job training that all new employees with a specific role/department have to comply with as a condition of their employment?
They are providing the funding for the course and it was not stated that it would be the condition of the employment when applying . It was only advertised as "opportunity to do a level 3 Apprenticeship" so I thought it was more or less optional and I could opt to do more relevant things. However, upon accepting the offer, I was automatically told " all graduates have to do it as part of the scheme" and kind of feel a bit cheated here. But whatever, I can understand this might be in poor taste, so I should be ok.
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I can't imagine this is real. Why would someone be complaining about having to do training to do a job.
tsr is unreal.
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I can't imagine this is real. Why would someone be complaining about having to do training to do a job.
Agree. So much stuff here seems to be obvious bait yet no one ever calls it out. Years ago I remember making a thread about about top universities being racist cause they don't let monkeys or pigs in and people were replying with genuine arguments.
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I don't really see what your problem is? The course is presumably essential to provide you with the knowledge you need to do the job they want you to do. Your past education is kind of irrelevant.
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(Original post by megan23052)
I have a masters in science from Manchester, a first class bachelors from Oxford too, but they are forcing me to do a certification from Glasgow Caledonian
i lol'd. you aren't guaranteed a good job just because you went to those universities.
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I don't really see what your problem is? The course is presumably essential to provide you with the knowledge you need to do the job they want you to do. Your past education is kind of irrelevant.
I suppose my problem is not really with the training itself (more than happy to do it if they offered more professional qualifications, like PRINCE2 or CIPD kinda like qualifications). It is more to do with the fact that I did not get 3 A*s to get into Oxford, worked really hard to get a first and a masters with 2 years of experience post it. Now I am being forced to do something that has an entry requirement of like 5 Cs in GCSE that I could have done without doing a degree.My past education might be irrelevant to the job (and its quite easy to say it as a third person) but its just heartbreaking that all that has been ignored thats all.
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(Original post by megan23052)
It is more to do with the fact that I did not get 3 A*s to get into Oxford, worked really hard to get a first and a masters with 2 years of experience post it. Now I am being forced to do something that has an entry requirement of like 5 Cs in GCSE that I could have done without doing a degree.
welcome to the real world, no one cares you went to oxford/manchester x
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(Original post by megan23052)
I suppose my problem is not really with the training itself (more than happy to do it if they offered more professional qualifications, like PRINCE2 or CIPD kinda like qualifications). It is more to do with the fact that I did not get 3 A*s to get into Oxford, worked really hard to get a first and a masters with 2 years of experience post it. Now I am being forced to do something that has an entry requirement of like 5 Cs in GCSE that I could have done without doing a degree.My past education might be irrelevant to the job (and its quite easy to say it as a third person) but its just heartbreaking that all that has been ignored thats all.
You clearly think this job is below you - why not look for something else where your previous qualifications will be recognised?
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this post screams i'm a massive snob
Not if they think that 30k in London is anywhere near "good".
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lol , if having worked hard and asking to be recognised is " I am a massive snob", then I am a massive snob and in that scenario have no regrets being one... I know what I went through to get where I am and hence do not seek your approval
I mean.. if you're complaining about the free education which is probably necessary because it's not a university you think is up to your standards then yeah... you probably are one.
edit: you could just not put it on your CV
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I mean.. if you're complaining about the free education which is probably necessary because it's not a university you think is up to your standards then yeah... you probably are one.
people on here can be so unreal :laugh:
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I'd think employers would value if you have the experience for a job, and if not, how willing and successful you would be at undertaking necessary training. You sound like a complete snob who is detached from the real world.
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or maybe I just believe in Meritocracy?
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i'm reporting this thread as it's probably a troll. no one with a 1st from oxford would write such rubbish.
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