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does durham stall on oxbridge applicants?

Just wondering...cos thats what it seems like as so many ppl i know with grades like 4 As and above have not heard yet even tho they applied early whereas other people with lower grades have already been given offers!

But....how would durham know if ur applying for oxbridge? surely they're not allowed to know where else people have applied?

Also, why would they do this? what are they waiting for?

Any suggestions....??! cheers Ali xxx

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Reply 1
Ali_04
Just wondering...cos thats what it seems like as so many ppl i know with grades like 4 As and above have not heard yet even tho they applied early whereas other people with lower grades have already been given offers!

But....how would durham know if ur applying for oxbridge? surely they're not allowed to know where else people have applied?

Also, why would they do this? what are they waiting for?

Any suggestions....??! cheers Ali xxx

There are always rumours, which my school was more than happy to stir up, that good universties were often rejecting oxbridge applications as they didnt want to end up as insurnace offers. however as more people get rejected from oxbridge than dont then its quite stupid to be rejecting people on the basis that they are oxbridge unis. places like bristol have hinted that theywill reject people whose PS just looks like an extension of their Oxbridge extra application paper.

even if someone looks like a super genius and is obviously going to get in there isnt any harm in giving them an offer as you can just factor in to your calculations that theres one offer that isnt going to get taken up. and if your nice to them now they might come along and do postgrad, which they are less likely to do if you reject them now

to be honest i know few peoploe who have got offers/rejections yet and i think its difficult to go on anecdotal evidence like this. it all varies from dept to dept and college to college. also some courses (natural sciences and PPE for instance) are going to be domianted by oxbridge applicants and if they have few places then they have to think carefully who they are going to give them to and so have to wait a while.
I belive they know you've applied, and thus will probably wait to see the outcome of your interview. generally I think Durham prefers to be first choice.

One of my friends put Oxford down as an insurance offer. I found that rather amusing.
Reply 3
morals_officer
I belive they know you've applied, and thus will probably wait to see the outcome of your interview. generally I think Durham prefers to be first choice.

One of my friends put Oxford down as an insurance offer. I found that rather amusing.

how would they know you applied
I was under the impression they were allowed to look at your ucas form. I may be wrong, it wasn't something I ever really gave a rats ass about.
Reply 5
morals_officer
I was under the impression they were allowed to look at your ucas form. I may be wrong, it wasn't something I ever really gave a rats ass about.

no when they receive the form it has all your other choices hidden.
Reply 6
morals_officer
I belive they know you've applied, and thus will probably wait to see the outcome of your interview. generally I think Durham prefers to be first choice.

One of my friends put Oxford down as an insurance offer. I found that rather amusing.

they dont know the outcome of your interview - there is no way of knowing whether you have been accepted or rejected unless you wrote to them saying haha losers i odnt need your offer or something similar
morals_officer
I belive they know you've applied, and thus will probably wait to see the outcome of your interview. generally I think Durham prefers to be first choice.

One of my friends put Oxford down as an insurance offer. I found that rather amusing.



almost certainly very untrue.. i applied to durham and cambridge and got an offer from durham almost by return post even before i went for my interviews at camb... dont get sucke dinto conspiracy theories.. just chill out and what happens, happens..
Reply 8
They don't know for sure if you are an Oxbridge candidate, but there is an earlier deadline for those people and so other unis can tell if they get forms before this deadline that the students are probably trying for Oxbridge.
Same as above - while they won't actually know if a candidate has really good grades and applies shortly before the 15th October they might assume they've applied to Oxbridge.
It should be obvious to Durham that I've applied to Cambridge as my application was processed on the 12th of October and I've written about my work experience at the Cavendish on my PS but they still gave me an offer on the 8th of December. University College didn't want me, but St Mary's took me.
Reply 10
cheers guys, but just wanted to know why they are trying to predict if u r applying to oxbridge? how would that make a difference to them making you an offer? and if it does, how will it make any difference by waiting??!!
I DIDN'T apply to Oxbridge, yet I have good enough predicted grades and my UCAS form was processed by UCAS on the 5th October and received by Durham on 11th October. If the reason they haven't given me an offer is because of this then that's just SAD SAD SAD. It may also be my GCSE grades (maybe they don't like to see Bs) or something I do not know about in my reference (but then I wouldn't have got other offers, would I?)
Reply 12
iv applied 2 cambridge and got an offer from dur 2day....honestly i dnt think they kno! then cnt guess 4 everyone...it'll take them ages!
Ali_04
cheers guys, but just wanted to know why they are trying to predict if u r applying to oxbridge? how would that make a difference to them making you an offer? and if it does, how will it make any difference by waiting??!!


They're likely to be able to guess you're Oxbridge if your form shows up on the 14th of October (I know mine did!) and you have straight A's or similar.

This might make them less inclined to make you an offer, because the assumption is that if Oxbridge accept you, then you won't be going to Durham. This may mess up their intake figures - they could end up with too few people if lots of offers are made to Oxbridge applicants who then get into Oxbridge and go. If they account for this by making lots of offers to Oxbridge applicants and overfilling their quota on the assumption that many of the people won't come anyway (but they want to get as many as they can), then it may turn out to be the case that hardly any of the Oxbridge applicants get in and they all go to Durham (likely to be their second choice) - Durham will then have more people than they can house / fit into lecture theatres but they will be legally obliged to take them.

Perhaps in the case you mention they're holding back offers until they see how many good applicants they get - "maybe lots of stunners will come in after the Oxbridge deadline and we won't need those rah tw*ts". Jokes.

Please note obvious use of words in bold - this is just how they might play it...do we have any evidence that they are slightly more hostile towards Oxbridge applicants? I know Bristol's hinted at it, but I was having a discussion with a teacher at my school t'other day about how Durham try their best to make sure they get a lot of the Oxbridge applicants - after all, even the Ox-rejects are bloody good grades-wise and it's kind of a lottery regarding who gets in there anywayz. So by bagging Ox applicants Durham can get some of the top students in the country. That was teach's take on it anway...he's very knowledgeable so I chose to believe.

ZarathustraX (Soon to be Oxbridge-reject en route to Durham :biggrin: )
Zarathustra
They're likely to be able to guess you're Oxbridge if your form shows up on the 14th of October (I know mine did!) and you have straight A's or similar.

This might make them less inclined to make you an offer, because the assumption is that if Oxbridge accept you, then you won't be going to Durham. This may mess up their intake figures - they could end up with too few people if lots of offers are made to Oxbridge applicants who then get into Oxbridge and go. If they account for this by making lots of offers to Oxbridge applicants and overfilling their quota on the assumption that many of the people won't come anyway (but they want to get as many as they can), then it may turn out to be the case that hardly any of the Oxbridge applicants get in and they all go to Durham (likely to be their second choice) - Durham will then have more people than they can house / fit into lecture theatres but they will be legally obliged to take them.

Perhaps in the case you mention they're holding back offers until they see how many good applicants they get - "maybe lots of stunners will come in after the Oxbridge deadline and we won't need those rah tw*ts". Jokes.

Please note obvious use of words in bold - this is just how they might play it...do we have any evidence that they are slightly more hostile towards Oxbridge applicants? I know Bristol's hinted at it, but I was having a discussion with a teacher at my school t'other day about how Durham try their best to make sure they get a lot of the Oxbridge applicants - after all, even the Ox-rejects are bloody good grades-wise and it's kind of a lottery regarding who gets in there anywayz. So by bagging Ox applicants Durham can get some of the top students in the country. That was teach's take on it anway...he's very knowledgeable so I chose to believe.

ZarathustraX (Soon to be Oxbridge-reject en route to Durham :biggrin: )




Good post - there are lots of rumours, but both Durham and Bristol have given me offers. Don't worry if you haven't got one yet - when it has to go through department and college it could take a while.
Reply 15
SiAnY
I DIDN'T apply to Oxbridge, yet I have good enough predicted grades and my UCAS form was processed by UCAS on the 5th October and received by Durham on 11th October. If the reason they haven't given me an offer is because of this then that's just SAD SAD SAD. It may also be my GCSE grades (maybe they don't like to see Bs) or something I do not know about in my reference (but then I wouldn't have got other offers, would I?)


Hey Sian :smile:

have faith- they MUST have got round to looking at ur application by now cos u sent urs in so early and if they hadn't liked the look of u then they would have rejected u already! loads of ppl i kno who sent their form in after u have received rejections! no news at the mo is good news! but sending loads and loads of luck anyways...hope they're just trying to give u an amazing xmas pressie!

Ali xxxx
Reply 16
I applied to both Cambridge and Durham, was given a place at Durham, and am very happy after my first term at University College.

I fail to see how they can possibly treat you differently because you might be an oxbridge candidate, as they wont know for certain you have applied there, or if you recieved an offer or not (i failed my interview as it happens, their loss).

Durham are less likely to be picked as an insurance place because the offers are usually fairly similer to oxbridge, at least for the subjects i looked at. My offer was AAA... you can't really make a 3 A offer an insurance choice (unless your bonkers)! :p:
"Just wondering...cos thats what it seems like as so many ppl i know with grades like 4 As and above have not heard yet even tho they applied early whereas other people with lower grades have already been given offers!"

I got 5 A's (sciences and politics), applied to cambridge, and hold an offer from Durham for physics with a personal statement all about medicine. So they know that they are my backup choice. Therefore rumours indeed. Not everyone with straight A's applies to Oxbridge btw, i know plenty of people who havent.
Reply 18
its simply not true. I have 5A's at AS and applied to cambridge yet i have had my durham offer for about a month :smile:

I think its more to do with when they get round to processing your form :smile: :tsr:
Reply 19
!Laxy!
its simply not true. I have 5A's at AS and applied to cambridge yet i have had my durham offer for about a month :smile:

I think its more to do with when they get round to processing your form :smile: :tsr:
Or maybe its to do with dept, ie my course is specifically Durham, Cam and a few others... but with my grades I was almost certain to apply to Cam, and they will have realised that.

I KNOW for a fact that they at least speculate on the Oxbridge thing. A friend of mine went to interview and while she was being asked general questions, she glimpsed her UCAS app in printed form on the table (on top of a pile), with 'OXBRIDGE' written as a header in small block caps. Now tell me they arent petty bastards.

Because of this anecdote I have assumed an even lower opinion of Durham and am starting to wonder how long they are going to keep me waiting... I would have gone nuts if I were my friend.