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Hey, I will be joining University of Sheffield for MSc in Aerospace Engineering, could you guys please tell me if it's worth the fees I am paying for the course ? are there job prospects in aerospace field for an international student in UK ?
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Whether it's worth the fees is something that only you can decide, but in general Sheffield's education is very good for aerospace and they have strong connections to the aerospace industry.

Graduate job prospects for international students anywhere are pretty bad because there is always extra effort involved in hiring international students, which usually isn't worth it. A lot of people suggest countries like France and Germany go against this but the truth is their international student retention rates are actually pretty poor and not that different to the UK's. The 2 year PSW being introduced for this year's cohort will help things somewhat but it won't solve everything. The effect of coronavirus on the global civil aerospace industry is also pretty bad and that is also going to affect things for the next few years.
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Hi Makarim

Congratulations on your offer! We're really looking forward to welcoming you on campus soon

Whilst I have not studied Aerospace Engineering myself, I'd highly recommend Sheffield's Careers Service as a great place to start if you're thinking about what you might do after graduation. You can book an appointment with an adviser for one-to-one support, such as CV feedback or help with writing an application. They also run events throughout the year with top graduate employers, including a STEM-specific careers fair and workshops with companies such as BAE Systems and Boeing.

As Helloworld_95 has said already, Sheffield has really strong connections to the aerospace industry already. You can have a read about what students have done with their degree and options for your career on the department web-pages.

I'd also recommend starting a instant chat with some of our current engineering students, as they'll be able to tell you lots more than I can. You can search by subject to find someone you'd like to talk to.

I hope this helps, if you have any more questions just let me know and I'll try my best to help

-Ben
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Hi Makarim

Congratulations on your offer! We're really looking forward to welcoming you on campus soon

Whilst I have not studied Aerospace Engineering myself, I'd highly recommend Sheffield's Careers Service as a great place to start if you're thinking about what you might do after graduation. You can book an appointment with an adviser for one-to-one support, such as CV feedback or help with writing an application. They also run events throughout the year with top graduate employers, including a STEM-specific careers fair and workshops with companies such as BAE Systems and Boeing.

As Helloworld_95 has said already, Sheffield has really strong connections to the aerospace industry already. You can have a read about what students have done with their degree and options for your career on the department web-pages.

I'd also recommend starting a instant chat with some of our current engineering students, as they'll be able to tell you lots more than I can. You can search by subject to find someone you'd like to talk to.

I hope this helps, if you have any more questions just let me know and I'll try my best to help

-Ben
thanks for you reply!
but I learned that Boeing doesn't hire foreign nationals in the UK because there roles require a security clearance
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thanks for you reply!
but I learned that Boeing doesn't hire foreign nationals in the UK because there roles require a security clearance
Which country are you from, Makarim?
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Which country are you from, Makarim?
Hi, I am from India !
what about you ?
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Hi, I am from India !
what about you ?
I'm English, from the Midlands.

Would there be any opportunities to use your MSc in India?
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I'm English, from the Midlands.

Would there be any opportunities to use your MSc in India?
I am afraid, one year postgraduate degrees are not recognized in India unfortunately
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Would this be a possibility?

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/careers...gineer-officer
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thanks for you reply!
but I learned that Boeing doesn't hire foreign nationals in the UK because there roles require a security clearance
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I am afraid, one year postgraduate degrees are not recognized in India unfortunately
Both of these are incorrect.

UK civil aerospace companies can hire whoever they want, however certain nationalities must be isolated away from any defence operations. Indians are not one of those nationalities. The only time that people are barred due to their nationality (and residency) is for purely defence based jobs or where the company's civil operations aren't isolated from their defence operations. Boeing's operations in the UK are largely on the civil side, especially at the AMRC which is part of the University of Sheffield.

As for Indian companies not accepting 1 year masters, this is only true when you're not talking about top companies, however those top companies are the ones you'll be applying to if you have a UK master's. There's a reason why some UK universities require Indian students to do a master's in India before they can do one in the UK, and so the quality of 1 year UK master's is pretty well recognised amongst companies where it matters. E.g. one of my coursemates ended up working at ISRO for a while.
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Would this be a possibility?

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/careers...gineer-officer
Thanks a lot for your effort Sir/Ma'am I will definitely check this out
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Would this be a possibility?

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/careers...gineer-officer
Thanks a lot for your effort but I won't be eligible to serve the Royal Navy because of my nationality.
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Both of these are incorrect.

UK civil aerospace companies can hire whoever they want, however certain nationalities must be isolated away from any defence operations. Indians are not one of those nationalities. The only time that people are barred due to their nationality (and residency) is for purely defence based jobs or where the company's civil operations aren't isolated from their defence operations. Boeing's operations in the UK are largely on the civil side, especially at the AMRC which is part of the University of Sheffield.

As for Indian companies not accepting 1 year masters, this is only true when you're not talking about top companies, however those top companies are the ones you'll be applying to if you have a UK master's. There's a reason why some UK universities require Indian students to do a master's in India before they can do one in the UK, and so the quality of 1 year UK master's is pretty well recognised amongst companies where it matters. E.g. one of my coursemates ended up working at ISRO for a while.
Thanks for clarifying! however, I have offers for MSc aerospace at University of Sheffield and MSc propulsion engineering at University of Southampton, which one do you recommend ?
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Thanks a lot for your effort but I won't be eligible to serve the Royal Navy because of my nationality.
That isn't true, Makarim. I selected that particular role for a reason.

Are you from a Commonwealth country?
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That isn't true, Makarim. I selected that particular role for a reason.

Are you from a Commonwealth country?
Yes, India is a commonwealth country
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Yes, India is a commonwealth country
Yes, I hope my question didn't sound too dim, I wanted to make sure that I had understood correctly!

Marine Engineer Officer is a role open to citizens from Commonwealth countries.

I know that your degree is in aeronautical engineering, but the Admiralty Interview Board can consider any STEM degree.

If you were able to apply, you would probably know before you finished your studies whether you had been accepted.

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/careers...gineer-officer
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Yes, I hope my question didn't sound too dim, I wanted to make sure that I had understood correctly!

Marine Engineer Officer is a role open to citizens from Commonwealth countries.

I know that your degree is in aeronautical engineering, but the Admiralty Interview Board can consider any STEM degree.

If you were able to apply, you would probably know before you finished your studies whether you had been accepted.

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/careers...gineer-officer
Thanks a lot for clarification, I would definitely consider this.
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Thanks a lot for clarification, I would definitely consider this.
Something which would probably also interest you is the fact the Navy has units attached to Universities for students.

There is one which covers Sheffield - you could enquire and see whether you would be able to join.

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/our-org...nits/yorkshire

I've just noticed that you are also interested in Southampton - it has a unit too.

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/our-org...ts/southampton
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Something which would probably also interest you is the fact the Navy has units attached to Universities for students.

There is one which covers Sheffield - you could enquire and see whether you would be able to join.

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/our-org...nits/yorkshire

I've just noticed that you are also interested in Southampton - it has a unit too.

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/our-org...ts/southampton
Thanks a ton !
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Thanks for clarifying! however, I have offers for MSc aerospace at University of Sheffield and MSc propulsion engineering at University of Southampton, which one do you recommend ?
Propulsion engineering limits you quite a lot, not to mention that Sheffield has much closer links with Rolls Royce which is the main aerospace propulsion manufacturer in the UK.
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