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So I do know that grammar schools are state schools - but many people do divide the two terms, which makes it confusing. So if a summer course or summer school states that it only accepts state school students, is that including or excluding grammar school students? Just to make sure, because I’ve seen SO many people treat grammar schools as a whole separate entity to state schools
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You might have to ask them cause grammar schools are selective so they aren't identical to state schools in that sense.
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Summer programmes usually specify it as "non-selective state schools", which grammar schools are not. That's probably why it confuses people.
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You might have to ask them cause grammar schools are selective so they aren't identical to state schools in that sense.
True but they do fall under the term state school as they are funded by the state
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Summer programmes usually specify it as "non-selective state schools", which grammar schools are not. That's probably why it confuses people.
Not all grammars are selective though most are. They are state schools though.
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Summer programmes usually specify it as "non-selective state schools", which grammar schools are not. That's probably why it confuses people.
So if it just says state then I can apply? Because their main purpose of only allowing state school students is to give more opportunity to those who can’t afford or just don’t have crazy expensive private education, which still applies to grammar schools
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So if it just says state then I can apply? Because their main purpose of only allowing state school students is to give more opportunity to those who can’t afford or just don’t have crazy expensive private education, which still applies to grammar schools
Short answer is yes.
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Short answer is yes.
What’s the long answer hahaha
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What’s the long answer hahaha
Maybe. The specific one might only take comprehensive students but you should be fine.
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Some grammars are private, most are state. I went to a state grammar
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yeah mine's a state grammar and so is the new one I'm going to for Sixth Form
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its hella frustrating when universities or other institutions say that grammar school doesn't count as state. Like I go to a state grammar, but couldn't apply to a kings college program, due to being from a grammar school.
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You might have to ask them cause grammar schools are selective so they aren't identical to state schools in that sense.
They are state schools though so if a scheme is open to state schools then you can apply.
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its hella frustrating when universities or other institutions say that grammar school doesn't count as state. Like I go to a state grammar, but couldn't apply to a kings college program, due to being from a grammar school.
Wow really? I was thinking of applying to a few Cambridge summer schools this academic year, would you say it’s likely that the other colleges in Cam take the same view on grammar school admissions as King’s?
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its hella frustrating when universities or other institutions say that grammar school doesn't count as state. Like I go to a state grammar, but couldn't apply to a kings college program, due to being from a grammar school.
KCL are wrong then ... unless it specifically says a non-selective school they cannot refuse you.
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its hella frustrating when universities or other institutions say that grammar school doesn't count as state. Like I go to a state grammar, but couldn't apply to a kings college program, due to being from a grammar school.
Ahh you mean KCL? If so my bad.
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its hella frustrating when universities or other institutions say that grammar school doesn't count as state. Like I go to a state grammar, but couldn't apply to a kings college program, due to being from a grammar school.
The programs are meant for people from genuinely disadvantaged backgrounds. Grammar schools give you the same advantages as private schools and the fact you go to one means your parents likely care about your education.
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The programs are meant for people from genuinely disadvantaged backgrounds. Grammar schools give you the same advantages as private schools and the fact you go to one means your parents likely care about your education.
People from low-income backgrounds still go to grammar schools. Denying a person with low-income background to a summer school just because they go to a *state funded and therefore free* grammar school isn’t right and I doubt that’s the case with many summer schools.
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KCL are wrong then ... unless it specifically says a non-selective school they cannot refuse you.
yep I think it said non-selective or somewhat too, cant really remember for sure
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its hella frustrating when universities or other institutions say that grammar school doesn't count as state. Like I go to a state grammar, but couldn't apply to a kings college program, due to being from a grammar school.
I also loved that people were being considered "privileged" because my school was technically a grammar, despite having very bog-standard results and being in a low-polar area, rendering a lot of people illegible/uncompetitive for summer schools and the like.

(Meanwhile people from state schools that rival top private schools are technically eligible...)
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