Are Oxbridge Graduates paid more highly than others ?

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I know that for medicine all junior decrees are paid equally regardless of where their degree comes from.

I was unsure on the stats for engineering though , how does the Oxbridge engineering salary compare to the rest of the engineering grads' salaries, particularly from KCL and ICL ?

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I know that for medicine all junior decrees are paid equally regardless of where their degree comes from
And seniors too.


I was unsure on the stats for engineering though , how does the Oxbridge engineering salary compare to the rest of the engineering grads' salaries, particularly from KCL and ICL ?

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Since engineering grads of Oxbridge / higher ranked unis get an advantage, I would assume they'd have higher salaries.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-44413086

Looks like it (for engineering):

University Men average salary Women average salary
Cambridge +£18,108 +£9,205
Durham +£16,296 +£10,338
Oxford +£15,791 No data
Imperial +£14,472 +£14,064
UCL +£12,750 No data
Edinburgh +£12,294 No data
Bristol +£10,334 +£8,909
Southampton +£10,322 +£11,741
Lancaster +£9,817 No data
Bath +£8,964 +£6,009
Liverpool +£8,180 No data
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And seniors too.




Since engineering grads of Oxbridge / higher ranked unis get an advantage, I would assume they'd have higher salaries.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-44413086

Looks like it (for engineering):

University Men average salary Women average salary
Cambridge +£18,108 +£9,205
Durham +£16,296 +£10,338
Oxford +£15,791 No data
Imperial +£14,472 +£14,064
UCL +£12,750 No data
Edinburgh +£12,294 No data
Bristol +£10,334 +£8,909
Southampton +£10,322 +£11,741
Lancaster +£9,817 No data
Bath +£8,964 +£6,009
Liverpool +£8,180 No data
Damn , £10K from Cambridge compared to Liverpool for a degree with near enough the same content but just more prestigious , pretty wild man.
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Damn , £10K from Cambridge compared to Liverpool for a degree with near enough the same content but just more prestigious , pretty wild man.
Oxbridge grads get first pick at engineering firms so they're more likely to rise in the career ladder.

Interestingly, it's the reverse for Medicine and Dentistry in this table (Liverpool top it, and Oxbridge is around £10k below).

University Men average salary Women average salary
Liverpool +£21,994 +£17,922
Newcastle +£20,539 +£16,210
Birmingham +£16,633 +£14,077
Nottingham +£16,263 +£15,126
Imperial +£15,494 +£14,123
Sheffield +£13,366 +£15,269
Leicester +£13,327 +£10,143
Oxford +£12,384 +£10,442
Cambridge +£11,966 +£11,455
Leeds +£11,452 +£12,835
KCL +£11,266 +£13,354
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Damn , £10K from Cambridge compared to Liverpool for a degree with near enough the same content but just more prestigious , pretty wild man.
Why do you think the content is the same? It very likely isn't...
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Oxbridge grads get first pick at engineering firms so they're more likely to rise in the career ladder.

Interestingly, it's the reverse for Medicine and Dentistry in this table (Liverpool top it, and Oxbridge is around £10k below).

University Men average salary Women average salary
Liverpool +£21,994 +£17,922
Newcastle +£20,539 +£16,210
Birmingham +£16,633 +£14,077
Nottingham +£16,263 +£15,126
Imperial +£15,494 +£14,123
Sheffield +£13,366 +£15,269
Leicester +£13,327 +£10,143
Oxford +£12,384 +£10,442
Cambridge +£11,966 +£11,455
Leeds +£11,452 +£12,835
KCL +£11,266 +£13,354
I thought the NHS pays 2 people working in the same job role equally ?
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Why do you think the content is the same? It very likely isn't...
I thought that unis have to teach a curriculum set by the government with a few slight variations, like different exam boards at GCSE ?
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I thought the NHS pays 2 people working in the same job role equally ?
Yes, but you can choose to not work in a training grade (i.e. locum and be paid more).
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I thought that unis have to teach a curriculum set by the government with a few slight variations, like different exam boards at GCSE ?
No, universities set their own curriculum and examinations.
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I thought that unis have to teach a curriculum set by the government with a few slight variations, like different exam boards at GCSE ?
No. The only thing remotely similar would be certain degrees that are accredited by professional bodies e.g. British Computer Society for Computer Science/Computing degrees having certain compulsory modules such as Professional Issues/Ethics.
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I thought that unis have to teach a curriculum set by the government with a few slight variations, like different exam boards at GCSE ?
Cambridge maths student here. Different unis set different curriculums in the STEM subjects essentially based on the quality of the students coming in. So you can imagine the difference in mathsy degrees being quite wide between somewhere accepting people with all A*s vs 3Bs. It also means that getting a first from Oxbridge is quite a bit harder than from pretty much anywhere else in the UK, which is something worth considering when you decide your uni
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I thought that unis have to teach a curriculum set by the government with a few slight variations, like different exam boards at GCSE ?
Nothing is standardised by government, no. :nah: (Except things like Teacher Training courses - which get ofsted inspected too.)
Courses vary widely, where you have similarities are where there are professional bodies that provide courses with accreditation (like psychology for instance).

There are various "benchmark statements" for courses in various subjects, but these are incredibly vague and are more about the standard of content delivered than the specifics of the content itself.
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Cambridge maths student here. Different unis set different curriculums in the STEM subjects essentially based on the quality of the students coming in. So you can imagine the difference in mathsy degrees being quite wide between somewhere accepting people with all A*s vs 3Bs. It also means that getting a first from Oxbridge is quite a bit harder than from pretty much anywhere else in the UK, which is something worth considering when you decide your uni
prsom, I feel too many people ignore this or deem people "elitist" for thinking a university isn't good enough for them academically. think it's important if you care much about the academics to not lowball your uni.
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I thought the NHS pays 2 people working in the same job role equally ?
That table is relative to pre-uni achievement. So if Oxford medics had higher A-levels the earnings would be adjusted downwards. You can't interpret that table as raw values - its an estimate of value added by the university itself.
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I thought that unis have to teach a curriculum set by the government with a few slight variations, like different exam boards at GCSE ?
Lol no. They're all independent.

That's how unis like Surrey can just choose to award 45% 1sts when Oxbridge, LSE, Imperial etc award less.
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