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    (Original post by BossLady)
    Why?? The weird tripos nat sci system thingy put me off even applying for the cambridge comp sci course last year.
    I think it was nice. It allowed me to do some more Physics, the Maths was pretty easy and I hear it means that some compscis now even socialise with people that they've met through being a `natsci' for a year. Some even deffect and become natsci permenantly!

    Seriously though, you don't miss out on anything with it you still get taught as much (and more) than probably every other course. In fairness IC's seems to have a few things we don't really cover at all (well that I've done so far) such as Computational Finance, Robotics (although we cover some of the software aspects of it in our AI I course, obviously), Organisations and Management Processes and Digital Libraries (wtf??1?). But then again you have to do the MEng to do some of the stuff our BA covers, like Security and even then your security course is only just about as broad as our Intro to Security course. Clearly all courses are going to be different, but it seems to me that IC is actually more practical and so a lot of the courses possibly contain more implementation details whilst for example when we were doing our second comms course we had all of about two code samples from the BSD tcp/ip stack to illustrate algorithms but were refered to the source quite often (if we wanted to get mucky).
    I would like there to see a computational finance course here, given the destinations of a lot of our grads it seems ridiculous not to have one really. There's also not enough emphasis here on labs or on practical work (I'm saying this even given the tiz I'm in about my dissertation and project - 2115 lines and haven't even finished a single package yet ). They're perfectly happy to churn out graduates who can't actually program `properly' and people are expected to do a whole lot on their own. Of course there's no real reason why a compsci should be a code monkey, but I don't see why they couldn't try harder to make some of them more like that.

    To summarise my ramblings, I don't think you miss out on anything by doing the natsci stuff, it just causes you a whole lot more pain in the first year! If you're really keen you can recreate all the feeling of pain in the third year by stubbornly not dropping enough courses

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    I think it was nice. It allowed me to do some more Physics, the Maths was pretty easy and I hear it means that some compscis now even socialise with people that they've met through being a `natsci' for a year. Some even deffect and become natsci permenantly!

    Seriously though, you don't miss out on anything with it you still get taught as much (and more) than probably every other course. In fairness IC's seems to have a few things we don't really cover at all (well that I've done so far) such as Computational Finance, Robotics (although we cover some of the software aspects of it in our AI I course, obviously), Organisations and Management Processes and Digital Libraries (wtf??1?). But then again you have to do the MEng to do some of the stuff our BA covers, like Security and even then your security course is only just about as broad as our Intro to Security course. Clearly all courses are going to be different, but it seems to me that IC is actually more practical and so a lot of the courses possibly contain more implementation details whilst for example when we were doing our second comms course we had all of about two code samples from the BSD tcp/ip stack to illustrate algorithms but were refered to the source quite often (if we wanted to get mucky).
    I would like there to see a computational finance course here, given the destinations of a lot of our grads it seems ridiculous not to have one really. There's also not enough emphasis here on labs or on practical work (I'm saying this even given the tiz I'm in about my dissertation and project - 2115 lines and haven't even finished a single package yet ). They're perfectly happy to churn out graduates who can't actually program `properly' and people are expected to do a whole lot on their own. Of course there's no real reason why a compsci should be a code monkey, but I don't see why they couldn't try harder to make some of them more like that.

    To summarise my ramblings, I don't think you miss out on anything by doing the natsci stuff, it just causes you a whole lot more pain in the first year! If you're really keen you can recreate all the feeling of pain in the third year by stubbornly not dropping enough courses

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    I guess the options are going to vary quite abit, but I did like the fact that the course was very practical here(i will however CONSTANTLY complain about it whilst doing it lol)....the MEng is quite cool because in effect it's just an extra half a year studying (the other half you're doing the placement thing), so i would have assumed that if most people had the choice they'd rather get on the MEng than the BEng (the requirement is a 2:1 in second year), and thus more options/modules open up (actually some people just want to get away from academic insititutions lol).

    From the Camb course tho, it didn't concern me that there could be a possibility of me missing out on stuff (i figured the timetable would just be packed compared to other unis...although actually it might be a worry for some, im not sure), I was just really against the fact that I'd have to do 25% of the first yr in something I was really uninterested in...I despise physics greatly, and I don't think I'd have developed an interest in one of the other options that you can take instead...as there would have probably been a couple of modules in the comp sci side i'd have not liked too (i mean you're not gonna enjoy everything), i was worried there'd be quite a chunk i wasn't enjoying at all! Personal preference really...now i can do comp sci without yukky physics in the way !
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    Never knew this but Oxford is ranked number 1 for computer science in the Guardian tables for 2005.
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    Never knew this but Oxford is ranked number 1 for computer science in the Guardian tables for 2005.
    The Grauniad is so wrong

    Bosslady, guess that's fine, the sensible ones did Geology or did Physics really badly :p:, all Geology seems to be is drawing maps and identifying a few kinds of rock. According to my physicist friend it was a complete dos, and he's still helping his girlfriend with her Geology supervision work almost two years on!

    I didn't realise that half the MEng is a placement, that's pretty cool, but you could be getting a whole years worth if you'd left after the BEng... tough decision I guess.

    Alaric.
 
 
 
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