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Nope... state school all the way... and i still turned out alright
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What if it's both? I've mostly been educated by government institutions, but did go to a private school for year 7 & 8.
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What if it's both?? I've mostly been educated by government institutions, but did go to a private school for year 7 & 8.
O no!! What to do?! :p: Probably state...
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(Original post by Bekaboo)


O no!! What to do?! :p: Probably state...
K, yeah. I have :rolleyes: I just thought the poster could've provided an 'other' or 'both' option Lol whatever, its a petty thing to care about, I don't care, was just postn my opinion.
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depends where you are i guess.

the state system in northern ireland is top notch, but thats soon to be ruined when the terrorists policy of removing selection takes effect. scum.
Oh dear - is this an example of your unbiased stance?

I don't know who you consider the terrorists - loyalist or republican?

However, the 11+ is to be abolished in Northern Ireland because of the actions of Mrs. Kennedy - acting on behalf of the British government - following devolvement of the Assembly to Westminster.

You are being disingenuous or simply bigoted by making those sort of statements and they can't be left unchallenged on a website that seeks to educate!

We used to have a poster on here called 'mother earth' who knew all about the education set-up in NI, being a school governor herself. A search for her posts might enlighten those who want to get an unbiased account.

Incidentally, I read on the BBC news website for NI that four pipe bombs had been found in the grounds of 4 different catholic schools in NI in the past two weeks. I think those who planted them are the 'scum' of the earth by targetting children at school. Can you imagine the furore if it happened in this country? :eek:
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State primary, private school and 6th form
Lots of parents take their kids out of independent schools and send them to state 6th forms so as they can put on their UCAS applications that they go to a comp as it gives them a better chance of being accepted at unis who look at their state school intake percentages to comply with benchmarks set by government.

The practice makes me angry as their kids have had all the benefits of a top notch secondary education and they manipulate the state system to gain more benefits :mad:
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(Original post by yawn1)
Lots of parents take their kids out of independent schools and send them to state 6th forms so as they can put on their UCAS applications that they go to a comp as it gives them a better chance of being accepted at unis who look at their state school intake percentages to comply with benchmarks set by government.

The practice makes me angry as their kids have had all the benefits of a top notch secondary education and they manipulate the state system to gain more benefits :mad:
I know, it's so unfair, isn't it? :mad: If positive discrimination is going to come into it at all, it should only apply to those who have been at a state comp the whole time, not just for sixth form!
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Ive been in private since i was 9- In a posh christian 'we love ourselves and god' school, its backward but i love it Loads of me mates went to state and loved it! We have saturday school and finish at 6 everyday if your in sports teams and choir ya stay in saturday afternoons and sun mornings Hell! State gives you a lot more freedom and spare time which i think is really important- im to tired to get a weekend job at the mo! But saying that the state sch i went to for that v short period of time was crap, if i stayed there i would be working in maccy d's now! :hmpf:
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(Original post by yawn1)
Lots of parents take their kids out of independent schools and send them to state 6th forms so as they can put on their UCAS applications that they go to a comp as it gives them a better chance of being accepted at unis who look at their state school intake percentages to comply with benchmarks set by government.

The practice makes me angry as their kids have had all the benefits of a top notch secondary education and they manipulate the state system to gain more benefits :mad:
It's not just that reason, many people left my school (private) for the local 6th form college because it offered a wider range of A-level subjects, not many private schools tend to offer many 'non-traditional' A-level subjects.
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(Original post by joesharp)
It's not just that reason, many people left my school (private) for the local 6th form college because it offered a wider range of A-level subjects, not many private schools tend to offer many 'non-traditional' A-level subjects.
Yes! Also, the college near me has very good facilities.

My parents may not be able to afford to send me to private school any more.
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(Original post by yawn1)
Lots of parents take their kids out of independent schools and send them to state 6th forms so as they can put on their UCAS applications that they go to a comp as it gives them a better chance of being accepted at unis who look at their state school intake percentages to comply with benchmarks set by government.

The practice makes me angry as their kids have had all the benefits of a top notch secondary education and they manipulate the state system to gain more benefits :mad:
or..some private schools only go to 16 - so parents & offspring have no choice but to find another 6th form & all the stand alone 6th forms in my area are state..

that would be what happened in my case. so let's not generalise too much here.. :p: & you have to put all your secondary schools on UCAS - at leats you did when i applied - so they would have been fully aware where i went pre-16.

& TBH, glad i went to a private school from ~ 6-16.
ideally it wouldn't have been necessary but my parents (& on the advice of specialists) weren't happy with the mess the local state system was in so felt somewhat forced into it.

when it comes to 6th forms - i think the private/state distinction is less important - i could have done the same wherever i went - only perhaps being private would have caused more pressure!
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State all the way and I wouldnt have gone private if I had the choice for the simple reason I know I've got to where I am today by myself and not because my parents bought me my exam results/ extra time in school/list of other extra oppotunities private schools supposedly give. Also the social skills gained from mixing with people from all backgrounds at a state school - I think- is much more valuable in the real world than spending your school career with only other people from middle/upper classes. I dont think there is a lack of extra curricular activities in state schools - I go to an average one and do loads of other activities, from our pony club to debating, orchestra, netball, science club, DoE etc. The only thing people gain from being privately educated is being able to impress people by how much money their parents earn.
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(Original post by horsecrazy)
State all the way and I wouldnt have gone private if I had the choice for the simple reason I know I've got to where I am today by myself and not because my parents bought me my exam results/ extra time in school/list of other extra oppotunities private schools supposedly give. Also the social skills gained from mixing with people from all backgrounds at a state school - I think- is much more valuable in the real world than spending your school career with only other people from middle/upper classes. I dont think there is a lack of extra curricular activities in state schools - I go to an average one and do loads of other activities, from our pony club to debating, orchestra, netball, science club, DoE etc. The only thing people gain from being privately educated is being able to impress people by how much money their parents earn.
i would disagree. without intending any offence to state schoolers (i was one myself for awhile), a lot of them from the working class etc, have few interests other than in TVs, cars, mobile phones, gossip mags and hanging around near Maccy Ds. so generally, conversation with these people tend to be fairly limited, and you don't get to discuss a wide range of topics that you do with people from public schools who tend to be more informed in terms of current affairs and so on.

i think you were fortunate in having a better than average state school to go to. and tbh, you are what your parents make you. if your parents were only interested in TV, gossip and work, and not actively help you pursue your other interests such as music and sport, then i doubt you would be in the position where you are today. So like it or not, everyone is shaped by their parents, regardless of whether the parents paid for their education or not.
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(Original post by horsecrazy)
State all the way and I wouldnt have gone private if I had the choice for the simple reason I know I've got to where I am today by myself and not because my parents bought me my exam results/ extra time in school/list of other extra oppotunities private schools supposedly give. Also the social skills gained from mixing with people from all backgrounds at a state school - I think- is much more valuable in the real world than spending your school career with only other people from middle/upper classes. I dont think there is a lack of extra curricular activities in state schools - I go to an average one and do loads of other activities, from our pony club to debating, orchestra, netball, science club, DoE etc. The only thing people gain from being privately educated is being able to impress people by how much money their parents earn.
Well said, although I have to agree that your state school doesn't really sound average! Pony club, debating and orchestra sound like clubs only a private school would normally have. The only one of those extra-curricular activities my school offers is D of E.
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i would disagree. without intending any offence to state schoolers (i was one myself for awhile), a lot of them from the working class etc, have few interests other than in TVs, cars, mobile phones, gossip mags and hanging around near Maccy Ds. so generally, conversation with these people tend to be fairly limited, and you don't get to discuss a wide range of topics that you do with people from public schools who tend to be more informed in terms of current affairs and so on.

i think you were fortunate in having a better than average state school to go to. and tbh, you are what your parents make you. if your parents were only interested in TV, gossip and work, and not actively help you pursue your other interests such as music and sport, then i doubt you would be in the position where you are today. So like it or not, everyone is shaped by their parents, regardless of whether the parents paid for their education or not.
I obviously can't generalise about state schoolers as a whole but I've found that I've had many intersting and open minded discussions with people from school - and though chances are the majority of them are from working class backgrounds
TVs, cars, mobile phones, gossip mags and hanging around near Maccy Ds.
are not a common topic of conversation. I've also found from modern studies discussions (politics based subject we do in scotland) how unstereotypical and knowledgable my classmates are. I really dont know how you can class a school as average or not but from this is a school which is just under the national average for exam results by a couple of %. Parents do have a part to play in how their kids turn out, as do schools and friends. However its the person themselves that decides how they will turn out - state schoolers just have to work a hell of a lot harder than those at private schools.
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i went state for primary, private for secondary and state again for sixth form!
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(Original post by horsecrazy)
State all the way...

...The only thing people gain from being privately educated is being able to impress people by how much money their parents earn.
hmm yes. of course. thats all people that went to private schools got out of it... :rolleyes:
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5-11: State primary
11-18: State grammar in an 11-plus council area. The system here serves people very well - most of my friends who went to high school went on to uni and one's now a teacher.
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(Original post by horsecrazy)
State all the way and I wouldnt have gone private if I had the choice for the simple reason I know I've got to where I am today by myself and not because my parents bought me my exam results
It's a bit harsh to say that our parents simply bought us our exam results! I wouldn't say that just because people go to a private school it means that no work is required whatsoever... I work hard to get my exam results!!!

(Original post by horsecrazy)
Also the social skills gained from mixing with people from all backgrounds at a state school - I think- is much more valuable in the real world than spending your school career with only other people from middle/upper classes.
In my school not everyone is middle/upper class. A lot of people are working class and they are able to come to my school because our school gives them bursaries or scholarships. Actually, quite a lot of people in my school are very left-wing, but everyone still gets on fine together. Besides my brother went to a state grammar school and a lot of the people there were middle/upper class. So i wouldn't say that just because you go a state school it means there won't be people from middle/upper classes.

(Original post by horsecrazy)
The only thing people gain from being privately educated is being able to impress people by how much money their parents earn.
I don't think that's the only thing people gain from being privately educated!!!
There are always going to be people who try to show off about how much money their parents earn, nomatter what type of school you attend!
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hmm yes. of course. thats all people that went to private schools got out of it...
Unless you count being spoon fed through exams and arrogance as benefits.


( ha! i have some great friends how went to private school so the arrogance bit isnt necessarly true....)
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